Date: 2018-08-26 03:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katefan
Yeah, X-Factor was a dumpster fire of a comic around then. Can't speak for New Mutants but I do remember flipping through my friend's copy and wasn't there a bird character? And didn't the characters seem to drop two or three years of age?

Date: 2018-08-26 03:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bj_l
Yeah that was New Mutants during Fall of the Mutants. Most of the New Mutants I've ever read has been crossovers so outside of Mutant Massacre it hasn't made a great impression.

Date: 2018-08-26 06:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
I did think that annuals crossover with X-Men set in Asgard was pretty awesome.

Date: 2018-08-26 11:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The New Mutants was a solid series, often dealing with far darker and mature themes than the X-Men did.... and the Bill Sienkiewicz run was amazing. When it was bad it was... really not good, but otherwise, I'd really recommend it.

Date: 2018-08-27 04:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bj_l
What little I've read (well remembered, about ten years ago I went on a massive X-Book binge reading every single issue of every single X-Book and X-Book character appearance up until, probably, Reloaded in about a month, it was way, way too much.) of New Mutants has been either a few scattered Claremont issues (really good), the most recent (?) Zeb Wells stuff (also quite good), the Weezy stuff (not good at all) or the Weird/Defillips run (low key but really enjoyable).

Date: 2018-08-27 10:08 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Katie Cook Doug)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
That's fair I think...

Date: 2018-08-26 06:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Oh, those were the Louise Simonson years, weren't they? I dropped those comics as if they burst into flames in my hands.

Date: 2018-08-26 10:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katefan
Ah, so that's who was responsible. She took over X-Factor too, right? She is the one that introduced Apocalypse, for better or worse. Wasn't a fan.

Hmmmm, now I'm wondering if there is anything she ever wrote that I was into...

Date: 2018-08-26 11:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
She introduced Apocalypse because the original plan for major villain was going to be old Daredevil villain "The Owl", and the eventual direction Apocalypse took after she left was very much NOT what she had planned (Which could be seen in X-Factor Forever)

I'd strongly recommmend her work on Power Pack, and the M-Tech Warlock series was also very good.

Date: 2018-08-26 11:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katefan
Thanks for the tip. With the way modern comics are going and my growing disinterest I'm looking more and more into buying old tpbs so I can still support my local comic book store.

Date: 2018-08-27 06:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
The Owl as an X-villain? Now there's a thought.

"Why is Wolverine wearing faux-Victorian clothing and pretending to be a crime lord?"
"Shh. We're supposed not to notice. Like when he puts on that eyepatch, remember?"

Date: 2018-08-27 04:05 am (UTC)
bj_l: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bj_l
Quite as good editor, not so good a writer.

Date: 2018-08-26 11:46 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Katie Cook Doug)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The apparent de-aging was an editorial mandate, they wanted the junior team to act more like kids their age. As this was not something that was made clear to the reader, it was something of a gear changing without a clutch sensation.

And ah yes, Bird-Brain.... we do not talk of Bird-Brain

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