Uncanny X-Men #273

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Comments

[bj_l]

But X-Factor and New Mutants were so badly written at that point! I'd want to stay far away, too.

Also, jesus, Storm "the farthest reaches of the Earth"? You had a teleporter and there are places farther than Australia, you know. And less hospitable.

[katefan]

Yeah, X-Factor was a dumpster fire of a comic around then. Can't speak for New Mutants but I do remember flipping through my friend's copy and wasn't there a bird character? And didn't the characters seem to drop two or three years of age?

[bj_l]

Yeah that was New Mutants during Fall of the Mutants. Most of the New Mutants I've ever read has been crossovers so outside of Mutant Massacre it hasn't made a great impression.

[bruinsfan]

I did think that annuals crossover with X-Men set in Asgard was pretty awesome.

[icon_uk]

The New Mutants was a solid series, often dealing with far darker and mature themes than the X-Men did.... and the Bill Sienkiewicz run was amazing. When it was bad it was... really not good, but otherwise, I'd really recommend it.

[bj_l]

What little I've read (well remembered, about ten years ago I went on a massive X-Book binge reading every single issue of every single X-Book and X-Book character appearance up until, probably, Reloaded in about a month, it was way, way too much.) of New Mutants has been either a few scattered Claremont issues (really good), the most recent (?) Zeb Wells stuff (also quite good), the Weezy stuff (not good at all) or the Weird/Defillips run (low key but really enjoyable).

[icon_uk]

That's fair I think...

[bruinsfan]

Oh, those were the Louise Simonson years, weren't they? I dropped those comics as if they burst into flames in my hands.

[katefan]

Ah, so that's who was responsible. She took over X-Factor too, right? She is the one that introduced Apocalypse, for better or worse. Wasn't a fan.

Hmmmm, now I'm wondering if there is anything she ever wrote that I was into...

[icon_uk]

She introduced Apocalypse because the original plan for major villain was going to be old Daredevil villain "The Owl", and the eventual direction Apocalypse took after she left was very much NOT what she had planned (Which could be seen in X-Factor Forever)

I'd strongly recommmend her work on Power Pack, and the M-Tech Warlock series was also very good.

[katefan]

Thanks for the tip. With the way modern comics are going and my growing disinterest I'm looking more and more into buying old tpbs so I can still support my local comic book store.

[cainofdreaming]

The Owl as an X-villain? Now there's a thought.

"Why is Wolverine wearing faux-Victorian clothing and pretending to be a crime lord?"
"Shh. We're supposed not to notice. Like when he puts on that eyepatch, remember?"

[bj_l]

Quite as good editor, not so good a writer.

[icon_uk]

The apparent de-aging was an editorial mandate, they wanted the junior team to act more like kids their age. As this was not something that was made clear to the reader, it was something of a gear changing without a clutch sensation.

And ah yes, Bird-Brain.... we do not talk of Bird-Brain

[zylly]

Wow. Couldn't disagree more. I like X-Factor from this general time period way better than the Australia/scattered X-Men stuff. But to each their own.