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Link,
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/21/first-look-m-night-shyamalans-the-last-airbender/#more-28963

*Cue fanboy puzzlement* Where is MovieZuko's scar? What is that on MovieAang's face? Is that meant to be the arrow? He looks like a reference to Colin Farrell's version of Bullseye.

For Legality, How Mai and Zuko got back together after the second season finale.

Context: Spoilers for season two/three

After Zuko helped his sister Azula overthrow the city of Bai Sing Se, betraying his uncle in the process, Zuko has decided that he doesn't want to go back home to the Fire Nation, and would rather stay where he is.

Azula needs Zuko to come along though, as she had told their father that Zuko had killed the Avatar, and if he doesn't come along she can't keep a hold over him via blackmail. So her solution is to try and matchmake Zuko with her friend Mia, with whom Zuko had a mutual crush when they were younger.

Here's what happened.
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And thus Mia and Zuko get together, much to the rage of Zutarans everywhere.

Date: 2009-05-22 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arilou_skiff.insanejournal.com
D'aww.

I always liked Jin though. Heck, I found all of Zuko's almost-girl-of-the-week amusing. Especially the one he stole the horsestriches from.

Date: 2009-05-22 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moneyless_jew.insanejournal.com
I am apparently the only one who simply does not care about the 'racefail' of Avatar: The Motion Picture. IMHO anime characters often skew Caucasian in their design, and Aang at least did, at least to my perspective. I agree it could've been handled much better, and there were other distinctly Asian characters who were not necessarily cast well.

That said, that picture of the kid is awkward as hell.

Date: 2009-05-22 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colonel_green.insanejournal.com
Avatar (from what I've seen; I never watched it; after my time) was something of an exception, though, definitely, the characters on Pokemon and Digimon never looked remotely Japanese to me.

On the casting issue, I tend toward giving M. Night Shyamalan the benefit of the doubt there (not that the movie won't probably suck, though, based on his track record).

Date: 2009-05-22 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tavella.insanejournal.com
Anime characters don't "skew white" unless you take the default to be white.

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Date: 2009-05-22 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddpuppets.insanejournal.com
Uh...huh. Sorry, but that's just ignorance. Anime characters are not skewed Caucasian in their design unless they are deliberately Caucasian. You have to have a very limited knowledge of Asian features to believe that squinty eyes are the norm. As in comics, animation depends on open facial expressions, especially for the hero. Round eyes and an open face give the hero emotional availability - the emotions are clearly expressed and also allows the viewer to put their own self onto that tabula rasa.

I would rage a bit more but instead I'll point you to a helpful source:
http://www.matt-thorn.com/mangagaku/faceoftheother.html

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Date: 2009-05-22 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenmask.insanejournal.com
But your perspective is not the only perspective!

Taking the time to specifically say you don't care seems a little.. mean.


OP: Despite having seen only the first.. two? episodes of Avatar, I still ship that. So thanks for the awh!

Date: 2009-05-22 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottyquick.insanejournal.com
Yeah, you definitely are the only one who doesn't care.

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Date: 2009-05-22 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] parsimonia.insanejournal.com
I wish I could be excited about the movie, but I'm very bothered by the casting choices (see Racebending.com (http://racebending.com/) as to why).

Date: 2009-05-22 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tavella.insanejournal.com
Why, how could someone be upset that a series that was based respectfully on the vast variety of Asian and Native American cultures was turned into evil yellow folk oppressing the noble whites?

I just don't understaaaaaaaand.

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Date: 2009-05-22 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sherkahn.insanejournal.com
This was so awesome. It took me a while to fin the magazine that told the story inbetween Book 2 and Book 3 of Avatar. And the art makes the Fire Nation kids look ...younger. More their age.

Much love to Ty Lee.
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So what's this I hear about to link to pics from the Avatar movie? I saw no such thing.
Nope.
Nuh uh.

Just some wanna be fanboy stuff.

Where are the Avatar pics? Fer real.

Date: 2009-05-22 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gargoylekitty.insanejournal.com
Meh. I decided awhile ago that I'm not seeing the movie and ever since everything that's come out has only helped me be okay with that. Although I may have to start taking avatar comms off my flist on LJ because I'm sick of hearing about it. :\

Though, oddly, I will throw some defense in saying that the Zuko one could be pre-scarring which would also be why his head isn't bald.

Now to comment on the comic. Always awesome! Mai rules!

Date: 2009-05-22 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gargoylekitty.insanejournal.com
Errr.... I take back my remarks on the 'maybe it's just the flashback'...
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Date: 2009-05-22 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.insanejournal.com
Awww. I loved this comic. Nice to wash the whitewash taste out of my mouth from the picture. Yup, I am totally bothered by the racebending.

Also, as much as I like Dev Patel (who I assume will just be the villain here as we're far from the book of fire), he seems to have no scar.

Date: 2009-05-22 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownscribler.insanejournal.com
Look reeeeeal close. Like Ang's arrow, the scar has just been massively downsized.

Date: 2009-05-22 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mullon.insanejournal.com
I don't want to complain because I'm reminded of how the X-Men movies changed their outfits and those were fine. But seeing these do not fill me with confidence.

Date: 2009-05-22 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lencannon.insanejournal.com
I try not to be too judgemental but this movie is probably going to blow a whole crop of dicks.

Date: 2009-05-22 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filbypott.insanejournal.com
Even without the racefail, it's Shyamalan. His movies suck, period.

Date: 2009-05-22 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sir_razorback.insanejournal.com
The way his face is in profile in that picture, you honestly can't tell if the actor for Zuko has makeup for the scar on or not. I think it's too distinctive a feature to be left out, might even watch the scar being born, so to speak.

I'm 35 yrs old and I probably enjoy this show way more than what's healthy for me. =p

Date: 2009-05-22 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seawolf10.insanejournal.com
I see they're still going with a white kid for Aang rather than casting a pale-skinned Asian kid.

*cranks sarcasm to max*

Charming.

Date: 2009-05-22 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
Yeah, kind of awesome how, in response to accusations that the heroes of the story are all whitewashed, they... cast a brown kid as the bad guy and left the rest.

Though admittedly you'd never know Zuko wasn't the sole hero of the story from day one from some corners of the fanbase.

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Date: 2009-05-22 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandoz_iscariot.insanejournal.com
Discuss: What do you think of the first photos?

Haaaaaaaaaaate.

Date: 2009-05-22 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
Mai putting an icicle through a fish on Zuko's head in front of his giggling ex.

FIRST DATES DO NOT GET COOLER THAN THAT.

Date: 2009-05-24 03:23 pm (UTC)
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Agreed! *loves them*
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Date: 2009-05-22 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sistermagpie.insanejournal.com
You know it has nothing to do with looking like the cartoon character, though, right? And why should anybody feel thankful that they're making a movie in the first place?

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Date: 2009-05-22 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moneyless_jew.insanejournal.com
I'm going to amend myself from my first post which got me in the shit. Looking at what I wrote again, I was in a foul mood and tired of having to explain why I was trying to keep an open mind about the film after trawling through a lot of understandable anger about the predominantly white casting of the film. After what I wrote later to rabican above, I realize that reflects how I feel a lot more accurately. In brief, I don't think Avatar's characters skew Caucasian in appearance; I do think there is a fusion of different races and ethnicities apparent in many of their appearances, to enhance identification for kids of all race, color and creed in the audience. I also think anime in general tends to sidestep ethnicity a lot, but I may be wrong about that too.

I don't know if I'm wrong to feel as I do about Avatar's cultural makeup, but that's how I take it and that's why I was open to the casting of a white kid for Aang. I do find it very fucked up that the other protagonists are all white, while antihero Zuko is the only one of a different ethnicity. In that respect, I totally agree that Shyamalan and co. seriously screwed the pooch by not making the cast as multi-culti as the original Avatar itself is. If you're gonna cast a white Aang, you better make sure the rest of the cast is a great mix of people from all corners of the globe. They didn't do that, and shit looks goofy.

In any event, I fucked up on my first post. I was irritable, I didn't express myself properly and saying the character appearances skews Caucasian is wrong. Rather, I think their appearances skew towards EVERYBODY. I hope the film works out, but after "The Happening" and "Lady In The Water," uh...well, we'll see.

Date: 2009-05-23 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kosaginolegion.insanejournal.com
One thought on why the comment came off badly is that while Avatar's universe does seem to have a great deal of racial fusions going on, Hollywood doesn't.

And an Asian (or any non-white) can tell you that Hollywood tends to slant things so that it's the strong, noble, white guy/girl who's given the good parts. While the rest of us get the sidekicks or the villains. So when an opportunity comes for Hollywood to make up for all the Western men playing Charlie Chan (with associated accents) and telling Barry Hughart that no one wants to watch a movie about a bunch a chinks*, I think it's understandable to be disappointed and even seriously pissed about the subject.

*This incident is hearsay for me, so I don't know for certain it happened.

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Date: 2009-05-22 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fashi0n_mistake.insanejournal.com
Love the comic, hate the pictures.

God that movie is going to suck. Anyone want to take a bet on whether or not it will be worse than Dragonball: Evolution? My money's on yes, it will.

Date: 2009-05-23 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zhinxy.insanejournal.com
I'll take that bet.

Date: 2009-05-22 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverzeo.insanejournal.com
Still looks better than what they had for Dragonball.

Date: 2009-05-22 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] batcookies.insanejournal.com
Behold, the cast of Avatar!


...No, really.


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Date: 2009-05-23 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
Man, Patel would have made a great Sokka. Look how goofy he is! See him do the eyebrow thing! He's even got the ears!

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Date: 2009-05-23 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownscribler.insanejournal.com
And I also note a distinct lack of red in the Fire nation costuming...

I've been rolling it around in my head.

Date: 2009-05-23 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] proteus_lives.insanejournal.com
The racebending site is pretty damning. I think the actor playing Aang looks like him (the ears) The tattoo looks fucked up though.

I don't quite what to think anymore because it's not as high-octane as the old thread was.

Date: 2009-05-23 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squirle.insanejournal.com
The whole casting buisness must've pissed everyone off pretty badly. So many replies, and not one person to jump on Azula and Ty Lee "messing around in the bushes"?

Date: 2009-05-23 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluefall.insanejournal.com
Eh. Some things are just too obvious. XD

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