Power Girl and Cyclone discuss costumes

[thebigapricot]

Seven stories! 80 pages! All the stories take place within an "alternative reality" going on at JSA headquarters being caused by Dr. Fate.

The stories are hit and miss. I liked the first story by James Robinson (!!) which features some flashbacks to Ma Hunkel and Mr. America, and a story where Damage deals with some of his past.

These scans are from a story by Jen Van Meter where Cyclone teams up with Wildcat against Icicle (who gets points for calling Cyclone "Pippi Longstocking"). But before the fighting we get this conversation:


That's "little lamb" baby soft soap there




Interesting take on the window. Of course, Peej's boobs are drawn more realistically here, albeit still big, than they usually are.

Comments

[From: yaseen101]

This is kind of cute and I love the art.

Though, I'm curious about the story Robinson did, since it's Golden Age related I think he would have done something awesome with it.

[From: sethgray]

*facepalm*

Yep, the problem with PG's costume is that women are jealous of her big tits. Clearly.

[From: yaseen101]

I don't think that's what they are implying at all.

[From: iskander]

I believe she is implying that feminism is about making ones own choices,haters can just deal with it...

[From: dalf]

I actually read that as "women think that Power Girl's costume is a little over the top, what with the boob window and all that, but she doesn't care".

[From: khamelea]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who read it that way.

[From: sailorlibra]

The annoying thing about post-Johns Cyclone is that the other authors don't really understand rambling. Yes, she is dragging about the costume a bit here, but no more than a lot of other comic book characters have done without being accused of talking too much. Her theory concerning Peej's costume is certainly much shorter than the one Hitman delivered to Superman about his awesomeness in a post yesterday.

It's not quite a pet peeve of mine, but I think it might become one if this happens more. Probably because I'm too titchy.

[From: jlbarnett]

the difference between rambling and just saying a lot is speed. THe only way to convey that on page is with filling the panels with word balloons or a solid wall of text.

[From: mullon]

I read that as "...not with such a cute butt." at first, and so did you!

[From: toasty_fresh]

Sorry, DC, but no matter how many explanations you try to give me, I'm never going to not think PG's costume is stupid-looking.

[From: jarodrussell]

I thought Cyclone was in college, older than Stargirl (who is 17 now) anyway...or are boobs in the DCU like tree rings, you count the size to calculate someone's age?

And, uh, that is the lamest logic for the hole since...well, I'd say since they explained Black Canary's fishnets, but no one ever explained that. How exactly do exposed boobs distract gay men, asexual robots, non-humanoid aliens, uplifted animals, and Sheldon Cooper?

Here's a hint to the writers: if you're ashamed of what you do, and have to resort to small-minded excuses to justify working with such flamboyant characters, mmmmaybe you're in the wrong business, because as a programmer, when I see holes in my code that I don't like, I patch them.

[From: ada_c]

Haha Sheldon...

[From: icon_uk]

How exactly do exposed boobs distract gay men,

We'd be fascinated how she managed to keep at least one of them popping out of the hole in times of stress.

asexual robots

The boobs probably break one or two laws of physics, that'd engage any electronic minds.

non-humanoid aliens,

According to all the pulp sci-fi magazine covers I've ever seen, ALL aliens (be they scaled, feathered or just plain slimy) find well-endowed Earth women desirable,

uplifted animals,

If they're mammals, they know what a mammary is for.

and Sheldon Cooper?

You got me there...

[From: ada_c]

There's no way she could walk around without a bra on, or wearing a shirt with such thin straps. Well I mean she *could* but it definitely wouldn't be something I'd want to see...

[From: foxhack]

Speak for yourself. *coughs*

[From: ceebee_eebee]

I think I'm falling in love. I'd never given Power Girl much thought outside of BoP, but this comm is slowly but surely changing my mind about that. I may have to investigate this further...

[From: theanswer]

Power Girl has the best costume ever and I love Cyclone because she talks like me! ^_^

[From: toasty_fresh]

Also, "most women don't react quite that way"? Nice, DC! Way to imply that it's only the annoying chicks who persist in reading your comics that don't like it! Also, way to imply that they don't have a totally valid reason (i.e. it looks stupid) reason for doing so!

[From: thokstar]

You do realize the writer is female, right? I imagine she's speaking from her own point of view when praising the costume.

(The writier is actually Greg Rucka's wife if my google-fu is half decent.)

[From: sistermagpie]

Speaking as one of those "most" women, wow one of my favorite "it's not sexism if we pretend women are more powerful than men!" ideas. Right, because if history has shown us one thing it's that everyone is totally thrown "off-balance" when dealing with cleavage. Men, especially, never look at breasts if they can help it. They're constantly reinforcing the "you're not supposed to look there" rule on each other.

[From: nezchan]

You'd think most heterosexual male humanoid (or lesbian female humanoid) villains she fights wouldn't care much about social conventions like "don't sneak a peek".

Seriously, they're villains!

[From: nezchan]

I suppose I don't have much more issue with Peej's costume any more than almost every other female hero or villain. For her, and them, it's more the lack of support must make running, let alone fighting, a painful experience.

And it looks a lot more flattering than those pants in the last panel do.

[From: jlbarnett]

Powergirl is Kryptonian. Immune to all harm. She's more likely to suffer from backaches to her breasts than she is from someone hitting her in the back.

[From: halialkers]

I could accept this costume as a kind of Kryptonian way of saying "See? You can't hurt me no matter how hard you try bitches", but otherwise....this conversation is amusing from a certain point of view.

[From: lieut_kettch]

Heaven help me... are they actually obeying gravity in that second to the last panel?

'Course, Maxine's (with her witch hat and flying monkey) all about defyyyyying gravityyyyyyy.

[From: scottyquick]

Yeah, I remember JRussell mentioned that Cyclone was a big Wicked fan.

ALSO DID YOU SEE GLEE?

[From: zordboy]

For me it's when they try to make a big deal out of it, that it doubles the stupid. Can PG just say that she's proud of her boobs and likes showing them off? It's why gym-junkies go around wearing tight tank-tops or shirtless. If you're gonna ignore the elephant in the room re: the sheer impracticalness of it, can't *that* be the reason she wears it?

Hell, it *would* work to throw-off male opponents (gay men, in the DCU? Surely you jest). Some of them, at least.

It's when they try to rationalise it as an act of defiant feminism or rebellion or whatever that it becomes face-palm material. YMMV.

[From: sun_man]

this is sad. No women in here right mind would wear that costume daily, unless she was super promiscuous or a prostitute I'm sorry, but because this is a comic and D gives women ridiculous costumes I guess I just have to go with it.

[From: nikeskylark.livejournal.com]

when cyclone first appeared it was mentioned she was 19

[From: jarodrussell]

Thank you.

[From: foxhack]

I liked the old "I'm trying to fill that hole" explanation from back in the day a lot more.