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scans_dailyGot it just under the wire! For North America, anyway! Nya-ha!
Y'know, back when I was but a wee fanboy, I actually used to wonder if there was any feasible way the JLA could go up against Two-Face. It seems far-fetched to say the least, but I suppose the Joker's done it several times. So imagine my delight when, a couple months ago, I discovered this story existed!
In this two-part JLA story from 1975, our favorite bisected anti-villain teams up with the JLA to save the world from aliens inhabiting statues of Julius Caesar, Ben Franklin, and Napoleon! No, really.
These scans are two sets of seven pages from JLA #125 and JLA #126. First, Part 1: "The Men Who Sold DESTRUCTION!!!"
The heroes rush to the scene to battle the superpowered prisoners, as the events are recounted by the Dronndarians to the Weaponers of Qward, who become the main bad guys in the second part. But before that, the JLA saves the day, with a little help:
Hawkman's new fighting tactic: dropping crazy people on bad guys! Throw a villain at 'em, Katar!
The Dronndarians abandon the statues of Caesar, Franklin, and Napoleon, letting Hawkman, Flash, and Two-Face wail on three priceless antique statues until they caught on. Harvey doesn't think it'll be over that easily. And the issue ended.
Honestly, I almost didn't want to read the second part. I wanted to believe it could end with Two-Face being a good guy for once (as he really should be more often, honestly), and that he and the JLA would, I dunno, go out for Slurpees afterward.
I didn't want the story to continue because I knew what was going to happen. We all can guess, right? The coin would come up scarred, and Two-Face would betray the League, good guys beat the bad guy, and there are no Slurpees for Harvey Dent. It's obvious, that's how it'll go, right?
Well... not exactly!
At the end of part one, Two-Face advises the League, "If I may be allowed a touch of second sight, I have a feeling that whoever animated these statues has too much at stake to simply give up! They'll be back... if in fact, they're really gone!"
Then, at the start of Part 2--"The EVIL Connection!!!" (emphasis mine)--the League basically says, "Thanks for helping us save the world, Crazy Man! Back to a dank cell in Arkham for you!"
Aw, Harvey has a friend! I wonder who he could be?
Man, Hal is my second favorite character of all time right under Harvey, and I hate it when people dismiss him as being a dick... but dang, I kinda sympathize with the crazy dude's perspective here.
See, this is actually rather cool. The League preempts the reader's expectations by saying, "Uh, yeah, we're not going to keep Two-Face around long enough for the coin to come up scarred so he can betray us!" It's smart, yes. But they do it in a most dickish manner, totally ignoring the fact that Harvey, y'know, went to them to explain what the aliens' master plan was. Instead, they shrug and send him right back to Arkham Asylum, the place that makes Hell look like Kooeykooeykooey.
As such, when the Qwardians ask Two-Face for help (and really, didn't they learn anything from the Dronndarians?), Two-Face actually has motivation for screwing over the JLA! This is a refreshing improvement over the time-honored comic book tradition of "Welp, time to be evil now!"
When Superman and Aquaman discover a non-straitjacketed Two-Face, he tells them that the Weaponers blasted GL and make Harvey an offer, but that he turned them down. He says that the Qwardians are continuing the Dronndarians' plan to siphon off our universe's energy through our own acts of violence, and Superman questions a Weaponer.
The League travels around the Earth, beating up Qwardians rather easily. A little too easily. Flash takes Two-Face along to keep an eye on the bad guy, and during the fight, Barry realizes that the Qwardians aren't using the Dronndarians' power just before he's knocked out by a blast.
Atom realizes that they've been had, and that the devices Two-Face planted on them has rerouted the energy into the Leaguers themselves. In short, "WE'VE been doing the Qwardians' work FOR them!"
Ohhh, so that's his friend. Wow, it really does suck to be Harvey Dent, doesn't it?
Kind of a lame punchline, and somewhat anticlimactic to not even have an epilogue of the League with Two-Face. But all in all, it's a neat Silver Age gem that makes me wish we'd see more stories like this today.
Some of the most interesting superhero stories occur when characters are taken out of their usual circles. Like, Ra's al Ghul being revealed as the big bad guy in a LEGION OF SUPERHEROES story! Or EMPEROR JOKER! It's a simple, engaging, and underused trope of comics. They're the kind of stories that require a bit of imagination and originality on the writer's part, which is probably why they're not done that often.
Me, I'd love to see more of characters like Two-Face being used outside of Gotham, pitted against characters who aren't part of the Bat-Family. We already got a taste of the possibilities between this and the TEEN TITANS SPOTLIGHT issue where he faced off against Cyborg. For one thing, I'm hoping that JMS actually does the Two-Face/Hawk&Dove issue of THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD that he talked about back in May 2008. That'd be a great start.
Y'know, back when I was but a wee fanboy, I actually used to wonder if there was any feasible way the JLA could go up against Two-Face. It seems far-fetched to say the least, but I suppose the Joker's done it several times. So imagine my delight when, a couple months ago, I discovered this story existed!
In this two-part JLA story from 1975, our favorite bisected anti-villain teams up with the JLA to save the world from aliens inhabiting statues of Julius Caesar, Ben Franklin, and Napoleon! No, really.
These scans are two sets of seven pages from JLA #125 and JLA #126. First, Part 1: "The Men Who Sold DESTRUCTION!!!"
The heroes rush to the scene to battle the superpowered prisoners, as the events are recounted by the Dronndarians to the Weaponers of Qward, who become the main bad guys in the second part. But before that, the JLA saves the day, with a little help:
Hawkman's new fighting tactic: dropping crazy people on bad guys! Throw a villain at 'em, Katar!
The Dronndarians abandon the statues of Caesar, Franklin, and Napoleon, letting Hawkman, Flash, and Two-Face wail on three priceless antique statues until they caught on. Harvey doesn't think it'll be over that easily. And the issue ended.
Honestly, I almost didn't want to read the second part. I wanted to believe it could end with Two-Face being a good guy for once (as he really should be more often, honestly), and that he and the JLA would, I dunno, go out for Slurpees afterward.
I didn't want the story to continue because I knew what was going to happen. We all can guess, right? The coin would come up scarred, and Two-Face would betray the League, good guys beat the bad guy, and there are no Slurpees for Harvey Dent. It's obvious, that's how it'll go, right?
Well... not exactly!
At the end of part one, Two-Face advises the League, "If I may be allowed a touch of second sight, I have a feeling that whoever animated these statues has too much at stake to simply give up! They'll be back... if in fact, they're really gone!"
Then, at the start of Part 2--"The EVIL Connection!!!" (emphasis mine)--the League basically says, "Thanks for helping us save the world, Crazy Man! Back to a dank cell in Arkham for you!"
Aw, Harvey has a friend! I wonder who he could be?
Man, Hal is my second favorite character of all time right under Harvey, and I hate it when people dismiss him as being a dick... but dang, I kinda sympathize with the crazy dude's perspective here.
See, this is actually rather cool. The League preempts the reader's expectations by saying, "Uh, yeah, we're not going to keep Two-Face around long enough for the coin to come up scarred so he can betray us!" It's smart, yes. But they do it in a most dickish manner, totally ignoring the fact that Harvey, y'know, went to them to explain what the aliens' master plan was. Instead, they shrug and send him right back to Arkham Asylum, the place that makes Hell look like Kooeykooeykooey.
As such, when the Qwardians ask Two-Face for help (and really, didn't they learn anything from the Dronndarians?), Two-Face actually has motivation for screwing over the JLA! This is a refreshing improvement over the time-honored comic book tradition of "Welp, time to be evil now!"
When Superman and Aquaman discover a non-straitjacketed Two-Face, he tells them that the Weaponers blasted GL and make Harvey an offer, but that he turned them down. He says that the Qwardians are continuing the Dronndarians' plan to siphon off our universe's energy through our own acts of violence, and Superman questions a Weaponer.
The League travels around the Earth, beating up Qwardians rather easily. A little too easily. Flash takes Two-Face along to keep an eye on the bad guy, and during the fight, Barry realizes that the Qwardians aren't using the Dronndarians' power just before he's knocked out by a blast.
Atom realizes that they've been had, and that the devices Two-Face planted on them has rerouted the energy into the Leaguers themselves. In short, "WE'VE been doing the Qwardians' work FOR them!"
Ohhh, so that's his friend. Wow, it really does suck to be Harvey Dent, doesn't it?
Kind of a lame punchline, and somewhat anticlimactic to not even have an epilogue of the League with Two-Face. But all in all, it's a neat Silver Age gem that makes me wish we'd see more stories like this today.
Some of the most interesting superhero stories occur when characters are taken out of their usual circles. Like, Ra's al Ghul being revealed as the big bad guy in a LEGION OF SUPERHEROES story! Or EMPEROR JOKER! It's a simple, engaging, and underused trope of comics. They're the kind of stories that require a bit of imagination and originality on the writer's part, which is probably why they're not done that often.
Me, I'd love to see more of characters like Two-Face being used outside of Gotham, pitted against characters who aren't part of the Bat-Family. We already got a taste of the possibilities between this and the TEEN TITANS SPOTLIGHT issue where he faced off against Cyborg. For one thing, I'm hoping that JMS actually does the Two-Face/Hawk&Dove issue of THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD that he talked about back in May 2008. That'd be a great start.
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Date: 2009-12-23 04:29 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-12-23 04:52 am (UTC)Well either works perfectly ; )
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Date: 2009-12-23 05:01 am (UTC)Scans, sir, scans or it didn't happen.
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Date: 2009-12-23 05:05 am (UTC)Until the story reprinted in trade paperback so I can give DC my money, I second the call for scans!
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Date: 2009-12-23 07:02 am (UTC)I have my own idea, and it's one she thinks is actually very likely: the only pain he feels is from the seam areas between the scarred and unscarred flesh. In those borders, the nerves are still intact, and can get inflamed. I'm rather fond of that idea, from both a practical and metaphorical standpoint.
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Date: 2009-12-23 06:34 am (UTC)Is one of you going to post the Two Face issue of Spectre, or is that too schmaltzy?
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Date: 2009-12-23 07:05 am (UTC)One of me? Are there two of me as well? Either way, yes, I will post those sometime! I actually didn't care for the issue until very recently, when my girlfriend offered her own insights. I may bring her in as guest commentator, if she's up for the task.
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Date: 2009-12-23 07:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-23 08:12 am (UTC)So many artists just go, "Eh, it doesn't matter if his good side has any personality. All that matters is that he has two faces, and the other one looks CRAZY!"
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Date: 2009-12-23 01:49 pm (UTC)I wish for further teamups between Harvey & Hal. Because Hal is so very pragmatic, and has no patience for the crazy, and Harvey would take a deep and abiding delight in fucking with his head. (Can we get Two-Face a power ring? Can we get him TWO power rings? A blue one and a yellow one? Yeah!)
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Date: 2009-12-23 10:21 pm (UTC)The closest we have, alas, is the issue of SPECTRE where Spectre!Hal tries to cure Harvey. It doesn't take. I may post that one next week, with guest commentary by my Henchgirl!
I was trying to figure out which two power rings Harvey would have. I was actually hoping for blue and red, but ultimately after much debate with friends, it seems unavoidable that he'd be green and red. A Christmas Lantern of Crazy.
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Date: 2009-12-23 02:18 pm (UTC)Also, Flash's entrance is a helpful illustration of Zeno's Paradox. How fast can he run again?
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Date: 2009-12-23 10:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-12-23 06:14 pm (UTC)I mean, most demarcations I've heard for the Silver Age range from 1969 to 1973. Stuff like Green Lantern/Green Arrow's hard-travelling heroes or the death of Gwen Stacy, Spidey's 'drug issues', the 1971 revision to the Comics Code and so forth.
Heck, by 1986 we've got people talking about a 'neo-silver age' movement.
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Date: 2009-12-24 04:09 am (UTC)I grew up with comics in the 70s/80s as well, and we never used ANY term other than comics...unless you were looking at comic book seller ads or Overstreet.
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Date: 2009-12-24 04:51 am (UTC)I suspect that terminology was influenced by how Jules Feiffer's Greatest Comic Book Heroes (1965) used the phrase "golden age" a couple of times to refer to 1940s comics, though not with initial caps or to refer to the entire age.
That was one of the books I read a decade later, alongside newer versions of some of the same heroes, so I was aware of a Golden Age/Silver Age distinction. The fact that my favorite series back then was the self-consciously retro Invaders probably made me even more sensitive.
I saw Stan Lee proclaim the "Marvel Age of Comics" often enough, but I don't recall seeing "Bronze Age." I'll keep my eye out for old Overstreet guides.
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Date: 2009-12-24 05:38 am (UTC)And why is Aquaman even there? I don't see any evil alien fish monsters anywhere....
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Date: 2009-12-24 06:45 am (UTC)Aquaman! He's useful!
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Date: 2009-12-25 04:33 am (UTC)http://video.adultswim.com/robot-chicken/superman-vs-aquaman.html