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Magneto and Xavier get kinky in Eve of Destruction.

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Creators: Scott Lobdell, Tom Raney, Scott Hanna

Date: 2012-01-30 07:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
you know... if it were not for the art... it seems... too much for my tastes, this would actually be a really good scene....

Date: 2012-01-30 08:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Late 90's Tom Raney and early Lenil Francis Yu were pretty much very, very good standard superhero artists. You can see why Raney went to Marvel after cutting his teeth on Stormwatch, to me.

But when it comes to something like Magneto rallying his people, Yu doesn't quite cut it when it comes to the crowd, to me. Raney does a bit better with his stuff, but there are better artists who could do a 'Magneto lecturers a Charles HE made effectively braindead' scene.

As it is, though, Eve of Destruction is like my favourite pre-Modern Era X-Men story. It's got a fairly compelling and antagonistic Magneto (which made more sense than the drug addict Morrison gave us that Marvel promptly made into a clusterfuck), and a pretty simple yet grand-scale piece of storytelling.

Date: 2012-01-30 09:38 pm (UTC)
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he makes magneto look too psychotic . but yeah, i actually really love the story. quite compelling

Date: 2012-01-30 09:48 pm (UTC)
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If you mean Yu, he makes everyone look psychotic. Or really glum, dependant upon the panel.

Date: 2012-01-30 09:56 pm (UTC)
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it's kinda soap opery. the poses i mean... or bad shakespeare....

Date: 2012-01-30 10:35 pm (UTC)
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This probably my favorite X-story from the 90s. (I'm a big Jean fan and I though Lobdell did a great job capturing her voice.)


Although the point Logan makes at the end is a pretty good one. "There's about fifty people running around with an X on their chest and this is the team that you picked?"


Still, great story.

Date: 2012-01-31 06:05 am (UTC)
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What was the team?

Date: 2012-01-31 06:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] doomisay
Jean's team were Dazzler, Northstar, Frenzy, Sunpyre (a relative of Sunfire), and a couple new characters created for the event

Date: 2012-01-31 06:51 am (UTC)
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Huh. Well, Dazzler and Northstar make sense for a rescue mission. Blind 'em and have Northstar grab 'em.

Date: 2012-01-31 03:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] auggie18
The two new characters were a guy with invisible skin and an invulnerable mobster.

Date: 2012-01-30 08:41 pm (UTC)
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You know, every time I read Lobdell's work on X-Men these days, I find myself thinking of the Nostalgia Critic's review of Ferngully.

Specifically, the part where him and the Chick yell "TOO SUBTLE" into the camera.

Date: 2012-01-30 08:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
And yet I'd still rather take it over Claremont's usual bucketload of exposition or the vast majority of the modern X-Men stories. At least, you know, Cyclops wasn't a dick back then, Jean was alive and not having her return teased every five seconds, and Magneto's stance actually made sense.

Date: 2012-01-30 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] stolisomancer
You're welcome to it. Claremont was never quite able to trust an artist and he was shackled by Jim Shooter's "every issue could be somebody's first" exposition mandate, but he was able to let things be quiet from time to time. Lobdell's take on the X-Men theme always struck me like he was shouting into the camera.

Date: 2012-01-30 09:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I don't think it helps that, much like Claremont being pinned down by Shooter's ridiculousness, Lobdell was obviously part of an era at Marvel that was desperately trying to keep up with the competition from the upstarts Marvel had let loose. In the face of Image's big sales on the back of, let's face it, little more than tits and ass in the 90's, shouting was about the only thing that could work. Marvel's other story events from near enough the same period speak for themselves.

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