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Part of the Secret Origin of Man-Bat ties into the secret origin of Batman. Mainly, a bat wouldn't fly through a closed window just because Frank Miller thinks it looks cool.

Secret Origins   - Man Bat & Animal Man V2 #39 - Page 13

Secret Origins   - Man Bat & Animal Man V2 #39 - Page 14

Secret Origins   - Man Bat & Animal Man V2 #39 - Page 15

Gotham City: Home of the wacky coincidence. When I first heard about this, and thought the Langstroms were experimenting on the ground of Wayne Manor without Bruce and Alfred knowing.

To Monday Morning Quarterback the Dark Knight Trilogy, I would have added Francine Langstrom as a sonar expert working for Lucius Fox. (I also would have added Nora Fries as an expert on freezing technology, explaining why Batman just doesn't break the ice rescuing Gordon.) Nolan needed a few more female characters for his trilogy as well as a few more "out there" references to the Batman mythos. Even if they didn't use Man Bat and Mr. Freeze, references to them would be cool.

Date: 2013-01-14 02:51 am (UTC)
skemono: I read dead racists (Default)
From: [personal profile] skemono
"It's just a bat, Kirk! You can get another one."
"You don't understand! There's so much paperwork involved in animal testing, it'll take me weeks to requisition a new bat! Heck, the last time I ordered some, they sent me two rabbits instead."

Date: 2013-01-14 08:27 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
... and three years later Bunnyman and Cottontail made their Gotham debut.

Date: 2013-01-14 05:07 am (UTC)
randyripoff: (Blue Devil)
From: [personal profile] randyripoff
As an FYI, the bat flying through the window goes back to the original origin from 1940.

Date: 2013-01-14 11:44 am (UTC)
althechi: (happy dalton)
From: [personal profile] althechi
I don't think she had much to think about after Thomas got shot, to be honest.

Date: 2013-01-14 01:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-15 06:32 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2013-01-14 07:24 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Silly Kirk. Bats aren't actually blind. That's just a metaphor.

Date: 2013-01-14 08:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Yea, but they still can't see well at night. When it's dark he's basically correct.

Date: 2013-01-14 09:12 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Actually the bug eating bats, which this probably was since the whole echolocation angle is played, seem to have a high concentration of rods (rods and cones being the two types of receptors) in their eyes, which usually mean high light sensitivity. At least in humans. So they probably see pretty good in dark.

Date: 2013-01-14 10:14 am (UTC)
leoboiko: manga-style picture of a female-identified person with long hair, face not drawn, putting on a Japanese fox-spirit max (Default)
From: [personal profile] leoboiko
Good enough to see a transparent glass window?

Date: 2013-01-14 10:29 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Dunno. The stuff I read didn't really go into that. I'd guess they're as likely to fly into windows as any other night flier; owl, nighthawk, what have you. It's just that stuffing their ears wouldn't be the deciding factor in that.

Date: 2013-01-14 11:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
Birds do run into windows sometimes, but bats don't, because to them transparent glass is a wall in echolocation, but, well transparent with eyesight.

Date: 2013-01-14 09:33 pm (UTC)
cainofdreaming: cain's mark (pic#364829)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
Well, I must admit I didn't think it that way. Guess it would be the deciding factor then.

Though I find it kind of weird that a bat would try to enter a lit room. I kinda remember the fireplace being lit at least.

Date: 2013-01-15 08:35 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Yea, it's not too likely the bat'd want to go in, but it's possible.

Date: 2013-01-14 11:18 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Hm, good point.

Still, they could mistake a window for an opening.

Date: 2013-01-14 08:29 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Didn't Miller suggest the bat in his version was rabid or something?

Date: 2013-01-14 04:52 pm (UTC)
bradygirl_12: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
I don't know, but that sounds like Miller. Fitting!

Date: 2013-01-15 12:15 am (UTC)
thanekos: Yoshikage Kira as Kosaku Kawajiri, after the second arrow. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
He lost a bat, into the air/it went to ground, he knew not where..


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