Date: 2013-10-09 04:48 pm (UTC)
drmcninja: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drmcninja
This is really, really dumb.

Date: 2013-10-09 05:29 pm (UTC)
ablackraptor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ablackraptor
I really don't see why people seem to hate this event. I like it. The Bendis parts move really slow and could be condensed, but overall, its pretty fun, especially since it seems to be reuniting the present-day X-Men.

Plus, I like that it seems to be subverting the 'time traveller came back to stop their future' trope X-Men has done to death, since the time travellers are apparently A-holes and the future ain't half bad compared to most futures.

Plus, 'Sentinel X' being Shogo, pretty awesome twist, and rather sweet.

Date: 2013-10-09 05:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bizarrohulk
There should really be a moratorium on X-Men stories involving time travel and / or alternate realities. At least for the next five years, though preferably until the heat death of the universe.

Date: 2013-10-09 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
At the very least, this event should end with the Marvel Universe putting a restraining order on Beast, saying that he should never be under fifty yards away from a time machine.

Date: 2013-10-09 05:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] auggie18
It's not so much hate for me, more vaguely hostile apathy. The pacing is just really slow to the point that it feels like you could just pick up every third issue and not have missed anything.

Also, the whole people come back in time to change a perfectly nice future because it didn't go the way they wanted it to thing was done in a much better paced Fantastic Four story, but that's sorta inevitable when you're working with sixty+ years of stories.

Date: 2013-10-09 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
Actually, I think the pacing for the first few issues was amazing--then it just kinda slumped a bit while they were semi-explaining the future X-Men stuff. This issue definitely picked things back up, though.

Date: 2013-10-09 07:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I think it's that the previous stories have had some degree of horrible tragedy in the future, so the plucky resistance coming back (or vile villain doing the same) has some degree of drama to it.

As you say, these folks are just, apparently, assholes and so fail to engage my interest never mind my sympathy.

So yes, this is different from other stories of its ilk, it's even LESS interesting.

Date: 2013-10-09 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
they're the villains of the story, they're not supposed to have your sympathy, you're supposed to hate them for their arrogance and selfishness

Date: 2013-10-10 09:32 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The two aren't mutually exclusive as many villains do engage my sympathy at some level, the whole "one bad day" genre for example, or the "Doing dubious things in order to achieve something akin to the greater good either outright or from a particular point of view".

Date: 2013-10-11 09:33 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
I dont think your supposed to feel sympathy for them, not in the way that you're describing at least. We're not supposed to hate them completely just yet though, I just want to know why they're doing this.

Date: 2013-10-09 05:31 pm (UTC)
bizarrohulk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bizarrohulk
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

Seriously, did anyone NOT see this coming?

Date: 2013-10-09 06:38 pm (UTC)
draganoche: Dreams define Reality (Default)
From: [personal profile] draganoche
Wolverine did and even warned Rachel but they still got taken out fairly quickly

Date: 2013-10-09 06:06 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Did they make future Molly a bad guy?

Date: 2013-10-09 07:16 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
If you believe future Xornette... Xornetta? Ms Xorn.... whatever, then no, she and the others are "innocent bystanders"... though you might want a pinch bucket of salt with that.

Date: 2013-10-09 09:17 pm (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
"Yeah, ever since my friends started disappearing and dying in other people's crossovers my life kinda went downhill FAST."

Date: 2013-10-09 09:42 pm (UTC)
majingojira: (Default)
From: [personal profile] majingojira
Yeah, that looks to be the sum of it: evil through the incompetence of others.

Date: 2013-10-10 05:40 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
Wait, whose the cute baby Jubilee is holding?

Date: 2013-10-10 11:18 am (UTC)
akodo_rokku: (Default)
From: [personal profile] akodo_rokku
A random baby she picked up in Japan I believe, that was orphaned. She's been taking care of him since. He was the host to Sublime's twin sister for a while. Now he's just adorable.

So, her baby, basically.

Date: 2013-10-10 03:13 pm (UTC)
nomore: Robin bird sitting near two-colored plants, wings spread. (R :: Take Off)
From: [personal profile] nomore
I'm a nitpicker who watches babies XD, so yeah picked him in Budapest, and the rest fits.

Name's Shogo, or, well, Shogo Lee, since her baby.

Date: 2013-10-10 03:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minervasolo
I still don't understand how she got the kid from Budapest to America without anyone stopping her. I know you didn't used to need a passport for babies,* but I'm fairly certain you need something to show you didn't, oh, steal it from a hospital while everyone was distracted.

*you do now in the UK, I don't know about Hungary

Date: 2013-10-11 10:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
I'd think vampiric mesmerism would cut through a lot of red tape. Has she mastered that yet, or just the physical powers?

Date: 2013-10-10 04:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] suzene
Annnnnnd another one of Wolverine's crotch-spawn goes for the disembowelment. Yawn.

Date: 2013-10-10 08:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seamonkey72
So somewhere Kurt has a half brother where Wolverine is the father?

I was wondering when that would happen.
Edited (Spelling and structure.) Date: 2013-10-10 08:26 pm (UTC)


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