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so in Amazing Spider-Man 618, things happen.

Not Rhino related things, but Mister Negative related things (and the Maggia, and Mysterio. Wanna throw the Masked Marauder in there while we're at it?)



See, Aunt May's just found out "Mister Negative" == "Martin Li"

Consequently, Martin utilizes the corruption aspect of his powers; since Aunt May is a good person, the corruption takes wonderfully so that this scene can happen:

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(Jay's secret? He wrote some popular profitable books under a pen name.)

Anyhow, that was the windup, and here's the blow:

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... well, considering that her clothes aren't flipped, perhaps it was a more subtle variation of the Mister Negative powerset.

At any rate, those eyes are freaky.

And I guess it had to be said. After the corruption kicks off, it'll probably end in some " Peter, I said some hurtful things... but they're still true. " deal.

Date: 2010-01-21 07:36 am (UTC)
selke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selke
Oh, ouch. It doesn't matter if it's true. That's painful.

Is this current?

Date: 2010-01-21 01:59 pm (UTC)
yaseen101: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yaseen101
Yes.

Meta-text alert!

Date: 2010-01-21 08:14 am (UTC)
box_in_the_box: (Default)
From: [personal profile] box_in_the_box
... So, Dark Aunt May hates the BND version of Peter as much as the rest of us do, then?

Pity that this won't lead to Peter actually becoming a better person who improves his life.

Re: Meta-text alert!

Date: 2010-01-21 06:28 pm (UTC)
halloweenjack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
Or lead to Peter wondering if, maybe, one of his many enemies who have some sort of mind-control or -manipulation abilities might have had a hand in that.

Date: 2010-01-21 08:28 am (UTC)
aulayan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] aulayan
"And you can't even hold down a relationship, I expected you to be married by now."

That ... That would have been the kicker.

Spoilers?

Date: 2010-01-21 08:30 am (UTC)
kingsuperman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kingsuperman
You shouldn't be talking about stuff like that outside the cut; the fact that Aunt May gets transformed by Mr. Negative happens towards the end of the book.

Re: Spoilers?

Date: 2010-01-21 09:51 am (UTC)
anewchallenger: (Default)
From: [personal profile] anewchallenger
Like any of us are really going to go buy a BND Spidey book?

Re: Spoilers?

Date: 2010-01-21 09:53 am (UTC)
kingsuperman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kingsuperman
Because nobody who posts here reads ASM?

Re: Spoilers?

Date: 2010-01-21 10:16 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Spider-man confronts naked Jesus (Spiderman and naked Jesus)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
The point is it's against the rules.

Re: Spoilers?

Date: 2010-01-22 03:39 am (UTC)
anewchallenger: (Default)
From: [personal profile] anewchallenger
I don't think that a villain who makes people's emotions negative making someone's emotions negative is such a spoiler, though.

Hence what I said about it only mattering if youre really following BND which... well, none of us should be.

Date: 2010-01-21 08:37 am (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
That "the honeymoon over" panel very scary out of context. Like poor Jay about to learn how to fly or something worse.

Date: 2010-01-21 08:57 am (UTC)
seriousfic: (Default)
From: [personal profile] seriousfic
Just once, I'd like a hero to be ever so slightly self-aware as to "loved one saying insanely hurtful thing = something's up". How long ago was it that the Chameleon was disguised as Peter and going around saying insanely hurtful things to Peter's friends?

Date: 2010-01-21 09:43 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] savok
In fairness BND Spidey celebrates getting his socks on the right foot every morning, it'd take someone with the awareness of and intelligence of MJ to realize anything could be off in a world of clones and shapeshifters and demonic possesion and whatever you can think of.

This is why MJ had to go you see, she'd of ruined this thrilling plot with common sense.

Date: 2010-01-21 04:17 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: Charlie Crews vs. Faucet (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
J.M. DeMatteis ran with that during his X-FACTOR run way back when.

Havok: Lorna, what's going on? Is she controlling you somehow?
Polaris: Oh, if I don't agree with you I have to be brainwashed?

Thank you

Date: 2010-01-21 04:53 pm (UTC)
roguefankc: Getting annoyed (Getting annoyed)
From: [personal profile] roguefankc
As if your loved one who you know and trust for years acting out of character isn't a big, red, flag.

If anything, I'd pretend to leave, and then start automatically thinking, "OK, which telepathic/mind-control/mystical enemy is screwing around this time?"

Date: 2010-01-21 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
crazy thought. I wonder if instead of being a supervillain thing they'll decide it means she has some form of dementia.

Date: 2010-01-21 02:39 pm (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
Well, wasn't she brought back to life by a DEMON? o_O

Date: 2010-01-21 10:18 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Shun the nonbelievers! Shun-na! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Doesn't that cure Alzheimer's?

Date: 2010-01-22 03:29 am (UTC)
tacobob: Mordecai Not Very Impressed (Default)
From: [personal profile] tacobob
It cures goodness! She was brought back to life by a rather not very not nice demon. This should lead to Peter Parker's horrible-terrible-no-good, very bad day times a million! :O

Date: 2010-01-21 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
no one knows that.

Date: 2010-01-21 12:26 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] twigcollins
Doesn't she understand he's just trying to keep her from getting shot again? If he doesn't stay perfectly within the status quo, she's in the crosshairs. No real love, no real job, just Peter and Aunt May and wheatcakes forever and ever and ever....

Date: 2010-01-21 04:23 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
heh this was nice, hope Peter actually does something about it... like maybe... get his marriage back f rom the devil

Date: 2010-01-21 05:00 pm (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
This makes me think, didn't May always KNEW Peter was Spider-Man and just didn't tell him she know, like that one episode of Friends? Did Mesphisto took that Memory too just so Aunt May be a dick to Peter?

Date: 2010-01-21 05:54 pm (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Jigsaw)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
The Aunt May that always knew was a genetically altered actress hired by Norman Osborn to impersonate May. That May died in #400, and the real May was held captive by Norman.

When the real Aunt May was reunited with Peter, she found out that he was Spider-Man and took a more active role in his life. Lots of great moments between her and Peter and other superheroes.

When Mephisto wiped away the knowledge from everyone except for Mary Jane, Aunt May forgot and her character began regressing as she was before she found out.

Date: 2010-01-21 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I kind of like Mr. negative, almost despite myself.

Date: 2010-01-21 06:45 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Uuuh)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
All other things aside, what is up with Doc Ock's look there?

Date: 2010-01-21 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
If I remember right, in 600 it was revealed that all the super-powered punches and blows have pretty much destroyed his body and is starting to completely destroy his brain.

Date: 2010-01-21 07:32 pm (UTC)
lencannon: shy guy (Default)
From: [personal profile] lencannon
Ugggggggh I hate the Peter Parker is poor subplot. It isn't a BND thing, even back in the day. Just have the Fantastic Four "hire" him to make a coffee table book of their exploits or something and pay him out the asshole.

Date: 2010-01-21 08:22 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (spider-man: peter/mj)
From: [personal profile] skalja
But we can't relate to Peter Parker unless he's about to be evicted and his family is ashamed of him!

Date: 2010-01-21 08:20 pm (UTC)
skalja: Ultimate Spider-Woman posing like a BAMF (spider-man: spidey and deadpool)
From: [personal profile] skalja
"What am I doing with my life?"

Gee, Pete, I dunno, maybe you've been saving thousands of lives.

In principle I love it when Peter gets confronted with the gap between the potential he had as Peter Parker and the life he's actually living. In small doses, it's good drama/angst. But there are two related problems that Slott is having here:

1) The status quo set in place by Quesada, Brevoort, Wacker, and the Brain Trust of BND writers (not necessarily in that order) is that Peter always loses. So all bringing up his potential does is remind us that he will never get to use it, not because he is tragically bound to his life as Spider-Man, but because the Editors Say So. This isn't interesting; it's just irritating and yanks us out of the story.
2) The Brain Trust have successfully dumbed down Spidey past the point where he can be a convincing geek.

True, Slott himself has made a few forays into writing stories where Peter's scientific smarts are a part of the plotline (the Fantastic Four team-up, the Octavius battle referenced here), but it never rings true because he's such an imbecile the rest of the time, making basic tactical and logical errors for the sake of cheap, regurgitated drama. (Oh noes, he's run out of webbing!)

Plus, while his comic book science isn't bad (it's not, you know, actual science, but it's entertaining enough), he's always trying so hard to make us see how awesome Spidey is, and it just seems horribly forced. Especially since BND's predecessor is the JMS run, and J. Michael Straczynski, for all his flaws, wrote Peter's geek smarts as well as his pure love for knowledge more convincingly than any writer before or since. Slott just can't measure up.
Edited Date: 2010-01-21 08:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-01-22 12:06 am (UTC)
box_in_the_box: (Default)
From: [personal profile] box_in_the_box
And once again, all the writers and editors involved have said that THIS is the Peter that they and we both should be able to relate to the MOST.

Date: 2010-01-21 09:57 pm (UTC)
milleniumrex: (Default)
From: [personal profile] milleniumrex
Thing is, she ain't wrong.

Date: 2010-01-21 10:24 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Shun the nonbelievers! Shun-na! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Our loved ones know how to hurt us the worst.

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