Some Red Hood for you.

[myhovercraftisfullofeels]

I recently bought Under the Red Hood as a present for my little brother. I watched it with him, and my mind was blown. Beyond blown. I'm still picking pieces of gray matter out of my carpet.

ANYWAY.

I decided to celebrate by posting a Jason scene I love from Teen Titans during Infinite Crisis.





CONTEXT: Tim is in the Tower trying to organize the Titans' shit. Out of nowhere, he gets an unexpected visitor whose badassness radiated through the room like so many ninja pirates.


Translation: It is all kinds of on.

The Hood is from The Hood, bitch.

Now, Jason pretty much calls out Tim in a battle of the Tight Pants. There is a superhero equivalent of a "mine is bigger" contest, and Jason questions how Tim had the balls brains to find out Batman's identity.


It may just be me, but I find that last panel sexually suggestive.

It's like confronting your ex's new girlfriend. Except with more brutal violence and... no, wait, it's pretty much the same.

*insert hardcore face bashing*


They were gonna have to take down the Donna statue anyway. Jason probably saved them a lot of time.


And thus concludes one of the few Jason scenes I own my favorite scenes from that volume. Dueling sidekicks = AWWWWRITE.

Oh, and a suggestion: GET YO HANDS ON THAT DVD. Neil Patrick Harris is Nightwing. That's all I'm gonna say. At least Netflix it or something.

Comments

[cypherfdp]

How did he stuff the cape under his biker outfit?

[myhovercraftisfullofeels]

Red Hood technology. It's bigger on the inside. :D

[queendork56]

He learned it from Bruce. He can fit his whole costume under a Checkmate uniform.

[pyrotwilight]

Don't go knocking on Kole Jason.

[xammax]

He was right... why no statue? I mean he had a better death then most of those losers anyway...

I am looking at you Kole.

[minyandu.livejournal.com]

Well, it's just my own theory, but I think there would be some problem if they tried to set up a status for him.
If they named the status Robin, since Jason was already a successor, nobody really sure whether or not there would be a third(and they have a third, and so on...). It's kind of weird you have a Robin in the team and you have a dead Robin status at the same time. It's different from having a status of founding member. Though, they could name the status RobinII, but still, kind of weird when you could only honored a dead member by his code name.
And if they named the status Jason Todd, there would be secret identity problem. I don't know how accessible the memorial hall for citizens, but they are bats, so it's not very plausible. When everybody(except Tim maybe) thought Bruce was dead after FC, they didn't set up a Batman status either. So I think this may be a consensus among the bats, but nobody really had expected Jason would have tragedy so soon, even Bruce. He might know the possibility but not really want to face it.
Well, but still, it's my theory. I don't know how DC would explain this.

[ravenous_raven]

Because he wasn't ever a Titan (that I know of)? This is Titans Tower and it's a room for fallen Titans. If they put up a statue of every dead superhero or superheroine who was only vaguely connected to the Titans, they'd need a whole other building. :(

Besides, isn't the glass case in the Batcave enough of a homage for him? It's in his home base, after all.

Unless he's just talking about being honored and remembered in some way, any way, but the writing's just a little confusing.

[starwolf_oakley]

Didn't the Punisher once say "You think killing people IS EASY?!?!?"

Well, this covers a lot of the "class warfare" stuff I posted on the old board. The idea that Tim isn't as "street" as Jason and from a good family, thus making a better Robin, leaves a "strange impression" as runespoor7 said.

Yes, it certainly is a shame that Jason was just too poor to have the morality to be a good Robin. Only rich people should be costumed vigilantes. (ducks)

What Jason says regarding "Bruce let you find out" makes sense, especially considering he did the exact same thing with Sasha Bordeaux. And post-Zero Hour, Tim found out Bruce Wayne was Batman when the average DCU citizen wasn't sure Batman existed.

[whitesycamore]

DC really screwed up the class warfare issues. It's a shame, because there's a real point to be made there - it is way easier to be idealistic if you've always had everything you needed. Jason grew up in circumstances that forced him to compromise his morals, and Tim didn't. Unfortunately DC treats this as just another way in which he could never be a "true" hero.

[benicio127]

Yes, it certainly is a shame that Jason was just too poor to have the morality to be a good Robin. Only rich people should be costumed vigilantes. (ducks)

No need to duck. I think it's a valid point you're making. It's probably what bothers me the most about this push by DC to make Jason straight-up evil, when he's the only street kid Robin. And he rejected the thievery of Ma Gunn, just like he rejected his father's lifestyle. Bruce always says he believes Jason would have done more wrong had he not intervened because he caught Jason boosting the tires off the Batmobile to make money to survive.
Yet, Jason already had a moral compass. He'd kept his stepmother alive and without Bruce's help, was able to deduce Ma Gunn was up to no good and reject it on his own. He already had a moral compass.

[sweettart1823]

Aw why you do that to Donna, Jason?

[sweettart1823]

Oh and on another note at first I thought by his "Jason Todd Was Here" He had doodled something instead of making a hand print. Like an angry little stick figure of him or something xD

[big_daddy_d]

One of the things I enjoyed about Jason's return was the rivalry between him and Dick as well as Tim. I hope DC comes up with more Red Hood movies that particularly pit him against Nightwing.

[nezchan]

Jason's got a bad case of 90's chest in that first scan there.

[seriousfic]

I love that he apparently feels bare legs are too effeminate for him, so he puts on yellow leggings. Really, at some point, he should've rethought the whole idea instead of going "fuck it, I'm wearing some goddamn leggings and it'll look great!"

[benicio127]

Yeah, the canary yellow leggings are particularly special.

[terra]

I have to think Jason hit up a fetish shop to find a Robin costume in his size.

Gotham's probably full of them.

[myhovercraftisfullofeels]

THIS. :D

[benicio127]

I love Geoff Johns' Jason! This story was great, and had some great Jason moments. I really liked the one where he hopes Raven will have sweet dreams.

[minyandu.livejournal.com]

Yes, Raven's part is really sweet.

[espanolbot]

I still think that the Robin outfit is hilarious.

[shadowvalkyrie]

Absolutely! It wouldn't be so odd all by itself, but because he's wearing the badass Red Hood get-up before, it becomes utterly ridiculous.

[stubbleupdate]

Wait... Jason wears a green domino mask under his black domino mask?

Or is this colourist error?

[sweettart1823]

Is that a serious question? Of course he does. He's wearing a red one under the green one, too.

[icon_uk]

Now I know I'm not a major Jason Todd fan, but this issue is just so many different shades of "What the fuck?" it's approaching the funny.

The costume alone is hilarious, an older Dick might do something like that on Earth-2, but the "bad-ass streetpunk Robin" Jason decides that canary yellow legging will enhance his bad-assery?

His motivation that he's in a bad mood because he doesn't have a statue honouring his death might actually have been a valid plot point, but to react to it by kicking the snot out of Tim highlights just how juvenile and annoying Jason really is.

The whole "Bruce let you know his ID" bit is worthy of special scorn though, as the whole bloody point was that Tim didn't deduce Bruce's identity by scouring for clues, he deduced DICK'S identity whilst watching Robin on TV news footage and Bruce was simply Batman by logical inference. Plus he worked this out years before he ever came into direct contact with Batman, or Bruce even knowing his name

[benicio127]

His motivation that he's in a bad mood because he doesn't have a statue honouring his death might actually have been a valid plot point, but to react to it by kicking the snot out of Tim highlights just how juvenile and annoying Jason really is.

Except that saying "just a bad mood" is putting it in very simplistic terms. He died. He came back to life to find his killer was still running around killing people, he'd been replaced by the one person he thought would love him like a son, and to top all of that, even the team he'd worked on hadn't even memorialized him. Sure, it's a temper tantrum, but it's not like he doesn't have some valid points. Calling it juvenile and annoying is really just, imo, lacking the empathy to see the situation from both sides.

[whitesycamore]

I'd really like to know who this "they" are who said Jason wasn't tough enough. He makes it sound like he was voted off or something rather than murdered by the Joker following a string of startling coincidences... Oh wait, he's breaking the fourth wall again, isn't he?

On a related note, it really bugs me when other characters refer to Jason as "the failed Robin". Bafflingly cruel, considering the circumstances of his death. The only way I can explain it is that Jason's meta-textual qualities expand beyond him to the rest of the DCU.

[benicio127]

On a related note, it really bugs me when other characters refer to Jason as "the failed Robin". Bafflingly cruel, considering the circumstances of his death. The only way I can explain it is that Jason's meta-textual qualities expand beyond him to the rest of the DCU.

Yeah, can we at least make it the Fallen Robin? Failed makes it seem so much like it's all HIS fault. Imagine saying that to a victim? Hey, kid! It's your fault you died and you suck. See ya!

[irrelevant]

There was no point to this episode at all, aside from making Jason assholish and out of character. Well that, and pitting one Robin against another, because I'm sure it sounded like a good idea to Johns at the time.

I mean, do I really think Jason gives enough of a fuck about Tim to show up at Titan's Tower just to beat the shit out of him. Um, no.

Thought it was stupid the first time I read it, and the second, and I still think it's stupid. Whatever, Johns.

[sistermagpie]

Your icon seems particularly appropriate to the discussion.

[empyrean]

I'm suddenly reminded why I prefer Tim's red-and-black costume, because dude - those are some obscenely bright colours for a hero who tries to 'be one with the shadows'.

Still - 'You can't be that good' 'I am.' *fangirls Tim*

[icon_uk]

Robin being "one with the shadows" seems to be missing the point of Robin though, he always stands out when he's in action and Tim's black cape covers most of the brighter bits whenever he wants to lurk.

[kagome654]

Aw, Jason's tantrums are always so violent. Our hands are not for hitting, Mr. Todd.

I still wish the Robins would just settle their differences through Smash Brothers or Mario Kart or something like that Though that could end badly too...'If you use that blue turtle shell one more time they'll have to identify your body through dental records.'

[empyrean]

'Well if you don't drop the laser sword there won't be any teeth to match to the records.'

Jay being disappointed that with the wii version he can't even attempt to strangle Tim with the cable. And Bruce downstairs wondering why he's getting a headache.

[lipsofpoison]

I love the idea that Jason does this because both he and Dick had it beaten into them that it's not a game and he felt like Tim needed that revelation.

However, the tights are ghastly. Was he just cold?

[benicio127]

They really are. I mean it's fashion backward, not a fashion forward. (I say this like I'm Tim Gunn or something). Like why would he even change into that? Was it for the dramatic "ripping off my costume" effect? Why couldn't he have just left his Red Hood outfit on?!

Criminey. Well, at least his fashion sense is better than Dick's. I just don't know how someone explains why he's wearing a polka dot shirt and leopard print loafers and doesn't notice that this outfit does just NOT work. At least Dick has since wised up and gotten himself into that hot outfit because some of those costumes were doozies.