Mister Unknown is dead

[arbre_rieur]

Four pages from Batman Incorporated #2...

Batman has come to Japan to offer Mr. Unknown membership in Batman Inc., only to find that Lord Death Man has killed him.

Comments

[icon_uk]

Wouldn't that be pressures BELOW 1000 atmosphere's and the gems liquefy?

[thokstar]

Gravity works backwards in Morrison's DCU; see Final Crisis or the end of All-Star Superman.

[jarodrussell]

Technically, yeah. Maybe he's thinking in terms of vertical location of atmospheres. Like, if you're 34 feet in the air, you're above one atmosphere. Or is that too much of a stretch?

[benicio127]

This was a great issue.

[shadowpsykie]

hmmm you have the same Icon i have... though i made mine myself... interesting....

[jarodrussell]

It's strangely nice to see Aquazon again, but I still miss @Mosexsbat. He needs his own comic.

[bluefall]

Wait. Wait. Wait.

Did Morrison's Batman just make a big deal about guns?

I mean, okay, there's a comment I could make here about cultural imperialism yay or whatever, but, seriously. Morrison writing anti-gun Batman screeds. What else even matters. XD

[omnipotent]

+1

[jlbarnett]

I think he actually explained that after dealing with Final Crisis. It's like Batman has determined when it's okay for superheroes to use guns.

When you're shooting an alien god who has enslaved half of humanity and is destroying the universe by his very existence. Plus if it won't actually finish him off.

[jarodrussell]

I'll defer any argument about guns to Eliot Spencer.

[lencannon]

And why not? Bruce uses a gun once in his entire career and he gets killed, goes to hell, and vomits black. Its like that kid in college who thinks drinking is dumb, and then the one time he does get drunk, vomits until he cries. Your previous bias has been thourougly enforced.

[darkknightjrk]

I still don't get the problem with that Final Crisis scene--he was using the one weapon he had that could harm the GOD OF EVIL THAT WAS DESTROYING THE TIME/SPACE CONTINUUM ACROSS ALL THE EARTHS. Bruce even says that he's taking a "once in a life-time exception" to the rule.

[misterbug]

I thought that was just a quiet reassurance that the gun rule is still on, for people who were worried that his once-in-a-lifetime exception had made it void. Certainly it's not the same as Dave Willis' prediction of Batman using a gun for everything...

[pyrotwilight]

"WE wear the mask that grins and lies,
It hides our cheeks and shades our eyes,—
This debt we pay to human guile;
With torn and bleeding hearts we smile,
And mouth with myriad subtleties."

[superfangirl1]

Teehee..nice. :)

[jcbaggee]

Wait, do the international Batmen get their own Batsuits? Did we see Jiro's in this issue?

[darkknightjrk]

I think it was a case by case basis--Jiro wanted a fresh start, so he decided to go closer to the Batman look. Other guys like Nightrunner (and El Guacho, I would presume) have shown to largely keep their original looks, but work in the Bat-Symbol--making it like a police officer's badge, if you will.

Naturally

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

While Bruce is the general area, he's not going to spend a single scene with Cass. Totally part of Batman's new network, right.

Said it before, but it bears repeating: Fuck you, DC.

Re: Naturally

[darkknightjrk]

Cass is in Hong Kong, not in Tokyo.

[tsunamiwombat]

I don't see why Mr. Unknown had to become "batman" though. Think about it: he very publically dies. Then Mr. Unknown returns.

Thats crazy pysche out shit equal to the Batman mythos's.

These hero's should keep their identities. Mr. Unknown WAS the Japanese hero, he should've stayed Mr. Unknown. It just seems stupid and pointless to become "Batman, but in japan"

[arysteia]

He specifically wanted a fresh start, and Batman gave him that. Several of the other heroes explicitly *are* keeping their old identities/mythoi. It's deliberately showing the whole range of options.

[badficwriter]

This is all an homage to the Green Hornet, right? He's got a Green Hornet mask and wears a bee outfit in civvies.

[psychopathicus_rex]

And used a gun, the GH's signature weapon. You're probably right.

[vitruvian23]

I notice he's never tried to pull the 'no guns' line on characters like the original Vigilante, or the Crimson Avenger. Or on the Shadow, back when he was in the DCU and established as one of Bruce's idols. Or even on Adam Strange - his gun may shoot ray blasts, but it's still a gun. By that same token, the current Blue Beetle, Rocket Red, and a whole host of other superheroes he fully accepts are sporting lethal weaponry as well - surely the exact shape and whether the weapon is separate from your armored outfit is not that important?

[psychopathicus_rex]

Well, none of those characters are working for HIM, donchaknow. Anyway, it's not potentially lethal weaponry in and of itself that he minds, so long as it's not used to actually kill - he's got plenty of that - it's guns in particular that he hates, because... well, you know.

[jlroberson]

I like this book lots so far.

[rordulum]

Hmm.

I've been going back and forth on this for a bit, and I guess now I've decided I really just don't like the whole Batman Incorporated thing.

It dilutes the impact of Batman as a character, and especially devalues the decision that Dick Grayson had to make to step up and wear the cowl. Now there will be a whole bunch of Batmen running around, when before the idea of one shadowy figure in the darkness was enough to scare criminals spitless.

Not only that, but it seems he's going to be having existing heroes strip off their own identities and begin wearing his. Isn't that rather dismissive of those men, who probably have their own valid reasons for adopting the identities they have? Are Bruce's reasons more valid than theirs? Is someone good enough to be Batman only if Bruce says so?

Think I'm going to have to stick to Batman, Detective and Batman & Robin from now on. That way, it might still feel like Batman to me. I guess it'll be a good few years yet before someone else comes along and undoes everything that Morrison has set up, only this time, I'll be looking forward to it.

[psychopathicus_rex]

Agreed - Bruce Wayne will always be the one, true Batman for me, with Dick a pretty good substitute. Having zillions of them running around the globe is just WEIRD - at the very least, it depersonalizes the role, and Batman has always been a very personal thing for him. It's an omen that came to him after a lifetime of training, the symbol of his own crusade against the crime that took his parents' lives. Look at how hard he fought to reclaim the role after Az-Bats perverted it. Look at how outraged Bruce was in 'Batgirl: Year One' when he caught Babs fighting crime in a Bat-outfit ("This isn't a game. You have no right to wear that costume."), and now he's handing them out like candy? Having other heroes work for him is a different story - he's pretty much got that already - but the pluralization of Batman just doesn't feel right.

[qalchemist]

Has anyone explained the super mega power suit that he was wearing in the first couple issues where he returned?

Because I somehow missed where that came from. The evil cyber suit that he came back in time with was evil and was destroyed, right?

[chipsnopotatoes]

Hi, thanks for posting this. Could I trouble you to add a tag for Catwoman? Thanks!

[arbre_rieur]

Done :)