Date: 2011-03-27 10:36 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
You know, I did wonder why Epting's Nate Richards looked a fair bit like/reminded me of Warren Ellis. That's why - He's someone who'll actually call Reed out on some of the things others won't. And Ellis, of course, made the best analogues/critique of the Fantastic Four in recent memory.

Date: 2011-03-27 10:37 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Oh, and this is really, really funny. I love the idea of Nathaniel talking to Doom like he's that one kid Reed used to be best buddies with years ago.

Date: 2011-03-27 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] hyperactivator
I think that Valeria is the perfect solution to the great Doom vs Reed smartiness struggle. I love it.

Date: 2011-03-31 02:38 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Hope Silly)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
Reed: I"m Smarter
Doom: I'm Smarter!
Valeria: We all know I'M smarter boys.... now you boys behave while i go hang out with Layla (can i say her name? i';m not sure if i can say her name...: ( )

Date: 2011-03-27 01:50 pm (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
You DID blow up Uncle Victor.....

Okay, nitpicking aside, I do wonder too--REED, DO SOMETHING USEFUL FOR ONCE. Well, more useful than usual. xD

Date: 2011-03-27 01:52 pm (UTC)
darkblade: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darkblade
No mention of how the Inhumans control a Galactic Empire now and the moon is abandoned.

Date: 2011-03-27 03:36 pm (UTC)
nomadicwriter: [Doctor Doom] Victor Von Crankypants (Valeria)
From: [personal profile] nomadicwriter
A group of 'universal Inhumans' arrived to establish a city on the moon in FF #577. (I'm not up on my cosmic Marvel history, so I'm not quite clear what their relationship is to the Attilan Inhumans, but anyway.) It's part of the whole 'war between four cities' arc Hickman's been setting up. Apparently they're expecting Black Bolt to return and lead them to a new home on Earth, which is presumably why Reed's trying to make the moon more suitable for them.

(And also why Reed's dad is right that it's a terrible idea, for nothing to do with the science behind it. They've made it clear that they think they're entitled to move in on your territory and take what they want, so you... offer their current base of operations a free makeover in the hope that'll make them happy to stay there? Genius, dude.)

Date: 2011-03-27 02:21 pm (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
The Future Foundation have found a cure for Ben.

The book isn't called Future Foundation. It's called FF. The FF stands for First Family as well as Future Foundation.

Also, terraforming the moon will be good for ending and alleviating hunger.

Date: 2011-03-27 02:46 pm (UTC)
nezchan: Toony version of me, more or less (Default)
From: [personal profile] nezchan
I predict it will end up doing neither.

Date: 2011-03-27 02:58 pm (UTC)
valtyr: (cap looks out the window)
From: [personal profile] valtyr
How? I mean, it's not like the world can't produce enough food to feed all its inhabitants now. It's getting the food to the hungry people that's an issue.

Date: 2011-03-27 06:43 pm (UTC)
thokstar: Spot (Default)
From: [personal profile] thokstar
Obviously by producing their own food, they can distribute* and supply it at significantly below market prices. You'd need to provide alternate employment for various Third World farmers (they no longer have food, but you can employ them to do other things while providing them with the now much cheaper food.)

*The distribution angle is the hard part. I suggest employing the Spot at a high enough salary to keep him from going rogue.

Date: 2011-03-27 06:55 pm (UTC)
jarodrussell: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jarodrussell
Yes, how could someone who can regularly travel to the moon and employs two fleets of robots (HERBIE's and Doombots) possibly get food from the moon back to Earth. Hmmm.

I'll get the drums, and we can have a discussion circle.

Date: 2011-03-27 07:07 pm (UTC)
thokstar: Spot (Default)
From: [personal profile] thokstar
You expect Reed to build/use a fleet of roughly a million Herbie's/Doombots? Because that's roughly what you need.

(You can possibly improve it to the mere tens of thousands by improved packaging that allows you to transport and store months of food at a time rather than days of food. But at some point you need to worry about things going wrong.)

Date: 2011-03-27 07:41 pm (UTC)
jarodrussell: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jarodrussell
HERBIE + spaceship = automated food convoy

I'm saying it's a trivial problem to over come for someone with Richards' technological base. That's the point of the joke...both why it's write and wrong...Reed could turn the moon into an automated breadbasket, he just hasn't.

Date: 2011-03-27 07:29 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
We haven't been able to use the, already sufficient to feed the planet, crop-growing surface on Earth to alleviate hunger, why would throwing the moon in help developing countries?

Especially since the food would need to be shipped from the moon to the Earth, increasing it's cost to absurd levels.

Date: 2011-03-27 07:44 pm (UTC)
jarodrussell: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jarodrussell
Not, really. Just contract Stark Resilient to build a few big repulsor batteries and put them into something like a SHIELD helicarrier driven by HERBIE-or-JARVIS-like AI's.

That parts are all there, the big brains just never put them together in the right way.

Hell, they mastered interplanetary colonization well enough to build 42. Marvel's heroes are now, officially a post-space superpower.

Date: 2011-03-27 08:18 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
42 is interdimensional, not interplanetary isn't it? What with it being in the (pretty much completely hostile) Negative Zone.

Date: 2011-03-27 08:24 pm (UTC)
jarodrussell: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jarodrussell
It's still on another planet, no matter what dimension it's in. It's still self-contained, houses people, can defend against local threats, etc.

Date: 2011-03-27 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
Well.... "Can defend itself"? DIdn't Blastaar you know... Conquer it?

Date: 2011-03-27 10:20 pm (UTC)
jarodrussell: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jarodrussell
I would argue only after Earth abandoned it.

Date: 2011-03-29 08:55 am (UTC)
01d55: Jigglypuff (Default)
From: [personal profile] 01d55
Also, it should be noted, that was a fight. Even after Earth abandoned the facility, Blastaar and his army had to mount a serious effort to seize it.

Date: 2011-03-28 05:53 am (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Who said anything about developing countries?

Date: 2011-03-28 08:49 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
To be honest I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Though there is no literal criteria, "developing countries" is a general term for countries which have little or no industrialisation relative to their population size. They are usually very poor countries in financial terms and so have little in the way of economic infrastructure, so when their crops fail, they have little by way of replacement.

Date: 2011-03-28 10:04 am (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
I'm just making the point that you're all being very geocentric.

Date: 2011-03-28 10:28 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
It would be the height of tastelessness to NOT focus on Earth first, IMHO. Given that we could feed ourselves but for assorted political/economic reasons don't manage it equitably, to profit off of others before feeding our own would be even more reprehensible.

Date: 2011-03-28 10:38 am (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Why assume a profit motive behind this?

Date: 2011-03-28 11:02 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
How would you fund such a mammoth operation without investment?

Terraforming a dead world to the extent it can raise crops when it's basic geological structure would not be suitable to raise crops (You'd need to introduce all the components to create a carbon-based ecosystem starting from scratch, since the moon AFAIk doesn't have any) would be unspeakably expensive.

Date: 2011-03-27 05:45 pm (UTC)
acton: (Default)
From: [personal profile] acton
Doom, you are such a tattletale.

He also blew up my face, Mr. Rrrrrriiiiicccchhhhaaarrrdddssss.

Date: 2011-03-28 12:15 am (UTC)
chocochuy: This is a picture of the cute Kobato Hanato (Kobato Hanato)
From: [personal profile] chocochuy
Wasn't Nathaniel Richards supposed to look like an older Reed?

Anyways, I loved this episode of the Casstoons.

Date: 2011-03-28 05:18 am (UTC)
zechs80: (Mayuri)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
Oh that Mr. RRRRRRICCCCCHAAAAAARRRRDDDDSSSS!!!

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