Gotham City Sirens #21
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Date: 2011-03-31 10:57 pm (UTC)Though at least Selina's not hanging out with Ivy and Harley any more. I never bought that Selina would hang around with Ivy and Harley who, after all, are villains, not anti-heroes as Selina is.
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Date: 2011-04-01 12:52 am (UTC). . . they don't have a love/hate relationship. They have an abusive spouse relationship, it's just that they're both abusive to each other. Yes, Harley is less abusive, but that's kinda because it's THE JOKER.
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Date: 2011-03-31 11:09 pm (UTC)And after murdering innocents to get in to see the Joker, I'm supposed to find her hugging him, what? Loathesome? Amusing? I genuinely don't know what they're aiming for, but I know I don't give a shit.
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Date: 2011-04-01 12:19 am (UTC)Ok, that's just so vile, I not only don't want to read this, but I don't want to read anything involving the Joker, or Harley, or Batman, or Catwoman, or anyone from Gotham city ever again. The Joker isn't just someone who kills babies for laughs, he's someone who does it to push the plot along. No comeuppance, nothing. The Joker killing babies isn't worth a story of its own.
This is not a worldview I can embrace.
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Date: 2011-04-01 12:33 am (UTC)and in fairness, if you're frequently antagonistically interacting with the Joker in a prison environment and he found out you had a kid, he would probably pull the "dress up like a clown" bit.
the ending is still what it is, though.
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Date: 2011-03-31 11:53 pm (UTC)On the plus side, Selina's departure is long overdue. After the whole Batman Reborn crisis blew over she really had no reason to stick around.
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Date: 2011-03-31 11:57 pm (UTC)Murgh.
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Date: 2011-04-01 01:59 am (UTC)*goes back underneath the covers of optimism
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Date: 2011-04-01 04:31 am (UTC)Blue Lantern Ring!
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Date: 2011-04-01 04:37 am (UTC)Also Joker scratching kids with a rusty nail..just...no. There's just a..level of cruelty to it that seems too much even for the Joker. It's something that just turns you off from him.
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Date: 2011-04-01 04:15 pm (UTC)Ew.
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Date: 2011-04-01 04:45 pm (UTC)Honestly, I'm quite dumbfounded that DC doesn't seem interested in capturing some of the Joker's animated appearances in their depiction of the character. The Joker from the DCAU or even Batman: The Brave and the Bold captures the character very well. But it looks like DC is insisting on doing a poor imitation of Heath Ledger's depiction instead. (Not to take anything away from Ledger's Joker, which was excellent, but it's just one facet of the character.)
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Date: 2011-04-01 05:35 pm (UTC)It's disgusting. They completely ruined the character for me who once was my favorite villain. I can't bear him anywhere (just once in B&R by Morrison in the last 5 years) Just kill him and keep him in the fridge for a time.
As for Harley, well...Not surprised a bit. When the book started, I thought maybe she would be allowed to grow but we all know how the book went.
Just please don't let Selina return. Please. That's all I want. I hate that she's in it. Writing for her character is completely off, it never made sense that she hung out with Ivy and Harley. Write her in her own book or write her into the Bat books. Anything but this.
Just cancel this.
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Date: 2011-04-01 06:51 pm (UTC)Which is really my main problem with the character as he is now. The Killing Joke was shocking because it was the Joker going farther than he had gone at that point, doing real damage to the Bat-family in the process. Since then, the stuff he pulled there seems tame by comparison, so the shock value is gone.
The other problem is that I think readers need to like comic book villains - not the horrible things they do, but there needs to be a sort of respect for them or a reason to want to see them return. The Joker now is just Hannibal Lecter without the charm, which makes him more of an annoyance when he pops up.
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Date: 2011-04-02 12:38 am (UTC)1. Has Joker EVER had a hiatus? Like has he died and not shown up for a year? The ony hiatus I can think of is when Batman died.
2. How does the general villian community view Joker? I'm mostly curious about Flash's rogues.
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Date: 2011-04-02 07:02 am (UTC)OhgodHarleyletthisbeaploytogetrevenge,please.
WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE AARON CASH'S KID?! Fuck.
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Date: 2011-04-02 08:22 am (UTC)He nailed him.
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