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Date: 2011-05-03 05:45 pm (UTC)Hickman, though! Excited to see what he does. Hopes high!
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Date: 2011-05-03 07:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 08:21 pm (UTC)Isn't Ultimate Cap pretty much Marvel Cap but with a gun and more awesome?
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Date: 2011-05-03 08:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 10:01 pm (UTC)And the jingoism, under Millar he only made that comment about France and then quickly retracted it by saying it was an idiotic and stupid thing to say when Fury called him on it. It's subtly implied by Millar (in Ultimates and the Red Skull saga in Ultimate Avengers) that Steve watches TV and repeats things he says, so I'm thinking that's more of an idiot case than a jingoist one really.
Now the way he was portrayed in the Ultimate Captain America mini however, ugh... I will agree with you 100% there, it was like the writer just took generic American jerk stereotype and wrote him as Cap.
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Date: 2011-05-04 03:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 05:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 03:23 am (UTC)He's an ass in the Ultimate Captain America mini, though.
(He also, in in-universe prejudices, went into a relationship with Jan knowing she was a mutant, and even when fighting the X-Men was firm that it wasn't about 'hating mutants'.)
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Date: 2011-05-03 09:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 09:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 09:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 10:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 03:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 10:21 pm (UTC)I can only recall the one time.
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Date: 2011-05-04 03:16 am (UTC)Ultimates 1, Steve knows off-hand the highest-ranking black soldier in the US and says he grew up with him. As soon as he's convinced he's not in a Nazi trap, he hangs out with the black General Fury and is polite and and respectful of his rank; he never suggests or implies he won't take orders from a black man. Wasp, who's Asian, takes him shopping for clothes and he's friendly. He later dates her. In Ultimate Nightmare he meets Sam Wilson, who's black, and pretty much bonds instantly with him.
In the Ultimate Captain America annual, he helps the African T'Challa escape back to his home country.
And Ultimates Annual 1 is actually about racism, it has flashbacks to military segregation and how Steve's increasing familiarity with the Nazi philosophy made him more and more uncomfortable with US racial policy. In the present day, he talks about racism with Sam, and states he fought in the war to stop that kind of shit, and is depressed it's still happening.
The evidence does not suggest Ultimate Cap is racist.
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Date: 2011-05-05 02:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-05 08:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 10:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 03:33 am (UTC)I'm rooting for Ellis writing a Steve and Sam roadtrip.
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Date: 2011-05-04 05:47 am (UTC)And yes he doesn't have the same issues with kid heroes but after Peter he would probably start having them.
I'm rooting for Ellis writing a Steve and Sam roadtrip.
All my money! Where did it go?
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Date: 2011-05-04 03:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-05 12:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 06:02 pm (UTC)Given what he has done with S.H.E.I.L.D. and Fantastic Four/Future Foundation, I am quite convinced if anyone can save the Ultimate titles it's Hickman. I am curious to see what he'll do with the F4 though given what they've done to Reed.
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Date: 2011-05-03 06:08 pm (UTC)What? No! I don't want to buy Ultimates! Damn you Hickman, damn you to hell!
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Date: 2011-05-03 07:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 08:36 pm (UTC)I only found out this morning, mate
Date: 2011-05-03 07:39 pm (UTC)Re: I only found out this morning, mate
Date: 2011-05-03 08:01 pm (UTC)Re: I only found out this morning, mate
Date: 2011-05-03 08:37 pm (UTC)Re: I only found out this morning, mate
Date: 2011-05-03 08:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-03 11:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 01:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 11:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-04 02:52 am (UTC)NO MARVEL I WON'T BE HURT AGAIN THIS RELATIONSHIP IS OVER! *runs off with face in hands*
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Date: 2011-05-05 01:40 am (UTC)Mark Millar is a lot of things, but I think he deserves positive recognition for The Ultimates 1 & 2.
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