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In the new DC, I've gone from having 2 books to having 1 book
Power Girl
Supergirl.

Here's some chat from DC's Super- panel I've ctrl+f'd it and just taken every paragraph and sentence relating to Supergirl

Johnson spoke to a mystery at the heart of "Supergirl" saying that the Maid of Might does not remember who she is or where she came from, so when she meets Superman for the first time, she does not instinctively trust him. "What we really want to drive home is feeling like we're with her every step of the way and that we're seeing everything as she's seeing it." The writer compared it to the whole relaunch of the New 52 as fans will see the DC Universe with fresh eyes....
Mike Johnson said in terms of how past stories impact "Supergirl." "Everything that's come before matters...but it's going to be a fun mystery.

Johnson added that Supergirl will be a fun character despite her mysteries. "We didn't want her to be this very serious character surrounded by a wacky supporting cast." He said a book without humor would be no good.
Idelson said that when they do other versions of the Superman family like Superboy and Supergirl need to feel significantly different than the Man of Steel. Johnson promised Supergirl and her powers would manifest in a way that "She's not just a Superman clone.""


It looks like, at least on the art standpoint, I'm picking a good one.


Supergirl 1
Meet Supergirl. She's got the unpredictable behavior of a teenager, the same powers as Superman – and none of his affection for the people of Earth. So don't piss her off!


Yes, even though the new Supergirl has no affection for the people of Earth, she still pays attention to her pubic grooming. Those are very high cut underpants.


I'm actually looking forward to this.

Date: 2011-07-23 09:40 am (UTC)
darrylayo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] darrylayo
From the waist-up, she looks so cool. From the crotch down...failure.

Seriously?

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Date: 2011-07-23 01:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hero_of_lallor
I want to show everyone campaigning for Wondie's panties this page to show them why its pants or a skirt.

Date: 2011-07-23 09:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I dunno... I have no problem with this as a concept for Supergirl, even if I roll my eyes slightly at her being rebooted AGAIN.

The "She's not a clone of Superman", just makes me think of the Matrix Supergirl, who had a different set of powers and also had the "outsider" thing without needing to be from Krypton.

But, and I say this as a gay man, even I feel very uncomfortable just LOOKING at that cut of underwear on a teenage girl.

I'm not even sure I want to work out what the posterior coverage must look like.... Would that even be comfortable (I know she's invulnerable, but even so...)

I'm also getting slightly fatigued from DC's constant "Everything that's come before matters" bit when it's seems that a good chunk of it just plain doesn't, or not as much as we seem to be led to believe...

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Date: 2011-07-23 01:55 pm (UTC)
hero_of_lallor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hero_of_lallor
As a woman I feel uncomfortable looking at that cut of underwear on anyone.

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Date: 2011-07-23 12:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] greenmask
That is such a specific, revealing, and specifically unfashionable, choice of leg-hole cut that it must either be directly and honestly addressed as a choice made by the character or..

There is just no actual excuse. HOW CAN THIS NOT BE AN ISSUE FOR EVERYBODY WHO WILL SEE THIS??

Date: 2011-07-23 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
They could do that in a pretty humorous way--have her looking through human fashion so that she can better fit in and wonder just who in their right minds would dress in such ridiculous outfits.

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Date: 2011-07-23 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
maybe everything still matters because they're taking a page from Powergirl and she's the last survivor of the old universe. She doesn't trust Supes because she knows the real him isn't an emo in Kryptonian battle armor and she dislikes humans because she knows they aren't supposed to be untrusting jerkasses.

Date: 2011-07-23 12:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flidgetjerome
See, you only think you're kidding.

I've got a horrible feeling they actually are trying to merge Supergirl and Peej's characters together without really understanding that Peej's long-standing independence outside of Superman's shadow is part of what makes her so likeable.

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Date: 2011-07-23 01:28 pm (UTC)
mullon: (Azula)
From: [personal profile] mullon
It sounds like she's going to be like that Supergirl run a couple of years ago that nobody liked.

And it's weird how one fashion design can look good on one character and not on another, though I think Powergirl showed a bit less thigh.

Date: 2011-07-23 02:07 pm (UTC)
terabient: Arakune reading (blazblue: arakune - thinking)
From: [personal profile] terabient
Been thinking of picking up the rebooted Supergirl as well - I'm not eager to read more origin stories, but I don't mind the idea of a more independent and fun (and dangerous?) Kara. Even though DC already had a fun and independent super-girl in Power Girl... :(

Also, for some reason I first thought Supergirl was wearing flesh-toned leggings, not going bare...but seeing more pictures of the costume shows that's not the case. Anyway, the suit is way overdesigned and uncomfortable looking...like all of the new suits.

Date: 2011-07-23 02:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
"Uncomfortable"! THAT'S the word I've been looking for, thank you.

It's been driving me nuts trying to find the word that most of these designs call to mind, but I couldn't find quite the right one, and that's it.

I don't mind impractical costumes, but they should look like they could be worn without wincing, stumbling or just looking uncomfortable as you adjust yourself AGAIN.

Date: 2011-07-23 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] generalfreedom
Well... I like the new cape. And the top part.

I agree with everyone else when they ask, "What the hell is up with the rest of it?" The cut does look uncomfortable and what's with the red and gold crotch protector? It looks ridiculous, especially in the second picture where it doesn't even look like it's part of the main costume, but just something that's glued on.

I think it would look better if they ditched the red crotch cover and if that gold thing was a belt. If they really want more red on her costume, they could give her gloves. They also need to make those boots, you know, whole. The knee cutout thing drives me nuts. It's so goofy looking.

I still like the cape though.

Date: 2011-07-23 02:36 pm (UTC)
zenbro: Robin rescuing Batman (robin thighs)
From: [personal profile] zenbro
My visual reading of this costume -

1. Crotch shield.
2. Arrows on legs pointing to crotch.
3. Two triangles above, pointing to crotch.

Date: 2011-07-23 03:02 pm (UTC)
perletwo: jlu supergirl (le sigh - supergirl)
From: [personal profile] perletwo
...wait. She's got girl parts? Thank you DC design team! I never would've figured that out for myself!

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Date: 2011-07-23 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] turtlefu
It looks like to me, that from the waist down is a white colored pants, and it's just the coloring that gives Supergirl very pale skin that makes it look like she isn't wearing anything down there. Look at the folds below her waste on the second image. That looks like pants-folds to me.

Also, can we please get a mature teenage Supergirl for once? I don't want to read Paris Hilton with superpowers like on Loeb's run.

Date: 2011-07-23 03:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Whilst that might be the case, the match between the skintone's of the face the legs seems to close to be anything other than bare legs.

Date: 2011-07-23 03:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bradygirl_12
That is one ugly costume.

*yawns*

Back to emo Supergirl again distrusting humans and her cousin. Just when she was getting a personality, they reboot her!

DC, I am not excited about your reboot. In fact, I am underwhelmed by it as it's going back over the same territory already covered. *yawns again* Hey, at least I'll more money to spend on the Cap movie ticket now, especially since MOS has been pushed back to 2013.

Date: 2011-07-23 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
From everything I'm hearing, it sounds like they're taking some of the interesting elements from the Loeb and Kelly Supergirl, and actually making it good.

I'm not sure if this is a must-buy, but I might get it when it goes down to two bucks if I hear good things. :)

Date: 2011-07-23 06:14 pm (UTC)
junipepper: (jumplines)
From: [personal profile] junipepper
Yawn... Hey, wow -- Supergirl is newly arrived on Earth and has memory issues! What a fresh, clever idea! You can see why they'd need to reboot the whole series in order to go in this shiny, new direction! *gag*

OK, for me this is the most baffling line from that whole interview:

"Superman will be what we want. This is kind of a 20th Century version,"

We need a 20th century version of Superman? What the hell did we have in the 20th century?

Honestly, I think there will be good and bad in the non-reboot or whatever the hell this is, but I'm just so irritated at the way they've been misleading -- yeah, okay, lying -- about things. It's like they don't really believe in it themselves, with all the hedging going on. It's just making me tired.

Date: 2011-07-23 06:24 pm (UTC)
detective_deathman08: (Default)
From: [personal profile] detective_deathman08
Wow first super boy becomes a villian and now this.

Date: 2011-07-23 06:52 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2011-07-23 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] celestialchild
Okay I take back my wary approval of her costume. That first promo image didn't look terrible, but now that the panty-flap is being drawn in such a way that it could be peeled off at any moment, the whole think makes me nervous to look at it.

Also, I still hate the lines on her boots.

Meanwhile, the fact that they are emphasizing the "unpredictable behavior of a teenager" makes me nervous with the direction of this...

Date: 2011-07-23 09:26 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
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Meet Supergirl. She's got the unpredictable behavior of a teenager, the same powers as Superman – and none of his affection for the people of Earth. So don't piss her off!-

Does this remind anyone else strongly of the pre-Kryptonite poisoning retcon of current Supergirl? That they moved her away from because it wasn't going over too well?

Date: 2011-07-23 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I'm still not sure if she's wearing oddly cut underwear or just unfortunately colored pants. I seriously can't see if it's a or b and that's disturbing.

Date: 2011-07-24 03:58 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Lex Luthor)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
Supergirl is on my pull list. As much as I don't like that she's back to square one, it does seem like it'll be a good series and interior artwise, the new look translates better..albeit I still wish she'd wear a skirt.

My one complaint is the same thing that has me intrigued..it's the fact that she doesn't seem to like humanity, let alone wanting to save them so...here's my reaction first off..FINALLY! After what happened to the remaining Kryptonians, I've been wanting that kind of emotional fallout...which brings me to why I don't like it....the reboot clearly erases War of the Supermen so...why does she not like humans?...Just..wouldn't it have been better for her to feel like that as a result of those events? Just...come on DC!

Date: 2011-07-24 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkysharps.livejournal.com
You know, I think it should be some sort of editorial mandate that no costume design can be approved until the creator wears the costume themselves. This isn't just some sort of revenge fantasy against Jim Lee and his terrible, terrible costumes, but also to remind the artists that the characters they're drawing are supposed to have, in the narrative, agreed to wear these costumes -- if they didn't design them themselves.

Somehow I don't see a teenage girl, even a very confident one, looking at that costume and going, "Yep, I'd wear that in public. I'm a-ok with everyone knowing whether or not I've shaved my pubic hair today." I understand that not everyone really cares that their costume is 100& practical ("I don't care if a top hat and tux isn't practical battle gear, I can do fucking magic. I'll dress like a magician if I damn well want to."), but I imagine even the less practical costumes should be ones the characters would conceivably be comfortable with wearing in public.

I know there's those "but she has no nudity taboo!" and "she's using her sexuality as a weapon!" excuses, but really I have only bought a grand total of one justification for an impractically sexy costume (That justification? She's a corporate sponsored superhero, her boss is an asshole, and she's being marketed to the public as a sexy dominatrix. She has to wear it if she wants to keep her job. Not exactly the sort of excuse you could use for Starfire or Huntress, now isn't it?) -- the rest just make me wonder if the writers and artists have any idea how reality actually works.

Date: 2011-07-24 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneil.livejournal.com
"she's using her sexuality as a weapon!"

And that makes things better, how?

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Date: 2011-07-24 05:12 am (UTC)
liara_shadowsong: (Default)
From: [personal profile] liara_shadowsong
I'm just going to say this about her costume: I like the parts starting at the waist and going up (particularly her cape, and the somewhat-uniquely-presented S-shield), and the M-shaped part of her boots just below the knee going down. From waist to knees, though, I hate it. If, however, a pair of fully opaque tights in blue or red or yellow (in my opinion, red may be best for this, but blue is also good, and yellow acceptable) were added, I would no longer have any objections to the outfit. If the red section that looks like pseudo-trunks were to in fact be extended to have roughly the same top shape, but continue across all of her crotch and hips properly, and continue down her thighs at least a few inches to a length of shorts that future artists could not reasonably abbreviate into anything cut up so high, I would have rather few objections.

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