Justice League #3

[superfangirl1]

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[bystander3]

When Justice League #1 debuted, I was worried that the pacing would be too slow, but this book is rocketing along at a speedy clip now.

The art is consistently crisp and frequently gorgeous.

Wonder Woman is a bit more naive and "fresh off the boat" here than I'm used to, but I have to remember that this is the Diana of five years ago, when she was new to our world. The modern day Diana over in Wonder Woman #3 is savvy and full of wisdom, so I'm not worried.

Young Hal is still kind of a show off and an idiot, but he's a consistently amusing idiot, so he gets a pass.

Young Aquaman looks like he's going to be a hoot.

[darkknightjrk]

Totally agreed, especially with Hal--I've literally never enjoyed Hal as a character until the New 52.

[darkknightjrk]

I LOVE this take on Wonder Woman. I could do without the sword, but man, this just feels pitch-perfect for a young Wonder Woman--brash, eager to see this new world and to whoop some bad guy ass. :D

[sinisterlink]

Hal: Dibs.

Yeah, in your dreams, Hal. I love Wonder Woman and the little girl eating ice cream.

[nezchan]

It's got a sort of Barda playing Pokemon riff, don't it?

[q99]

Yea, not exactly a way to make a good impression, Jordan :\

DCnU manages to constantly lower my opinion of him (seriously, why have him around instead of the multiple competent lanterns we know?).

Wondy, however, is love :)

[mullon]

Wonder Woman is now my favorite character on Justice League. Not that there was a high mark to reach or anything.

[auggie18]

"You're strong."


"I know."


Goddamn, that is awesome. Wonder Woman is amazing here. She's so nonchalant about how cool she is. It works!

[jlroberson]

It's not bad, but I could do without the "what is this 'iced cream' you speak of" bit, if only because I've seen bits like it so many times.

[espanolbot]

Now I have two ice creams, YAY! The fun has been doubled.

[junipepper]

I thought it was a hoot! Just a bit later, she tells the ice cream vendor that he should be very proud of this achievement (making ice cream cones, apparently). It has a lovely, goofy vibe, just lightening up the story a bit.

[jlroberson]

It was cute, it was like Daryl Hannah in SPLASH.

But I'll just say I do not like this Diana. This is just a spacier version of the Diana I've never liked, with less personality.

You know what Diana is awesome? Brian Azzarello's and Cliff(motherfucking brilliant) Chiang over in WONDER WOMAN. That's who. And not "cute."

Dibs Hal?

[big_daddy_d]

Ok you can have dibs. Dibs on her fists, feet, elbows, knees, and forehead..all of which will no doubt be connecting with your face.

Re: Dibs Hal?

[darkknightjrk]

That was kind-of my thoughts too. "Oh Hal, she'd break you in half; and no, I don't mean in the fun, sexy way. She'd literally break you in half."

Re: Dibs Hal?

[joasakura]

i won't like. a large part of me is going "TRY IT JORDAN. COME ON, PLEASE."

just so I can watch him get punched in the face.

[eyz]

I remember reading that exact same scene ("..Ice Cream" "Ice Cream?" "Have you ever had an ice cream?" "No" tastes "Mmmh.. It's wonderful!" in Perez and then Byrne's run... why do we always need the exact same stories over and over...

"Dibs" I see Hal's perfectly in character here :P

[hybrid2]

I'm I the only one realy anoyed by all the civilians being scared of heroes?

[jlbarnett]

no, you're not.

[joasakura]

nope. I like my DC hero-friendly. :T

[lieut_kettch]

Motto. If I wanted civilians running scared of superheroes, I'll read Marvel.

Although in any universe, it's perfectly acceptable to soil your underwear when confronted by Batman.

[arbre_rieur]

DC's always done stories where the public temporarily turned against the heroes. This arc, set in a time when superheroes were new so the public didn't know what to think of them, is just the latest instance. I don't think it's meant to be the status quo of the present day DCU.

[icon_uk]

Except that's exactly what the present day status quo seems to be. Look at Teen Titans if nothing else.

[jlbarnett]

but in JLI they(civilians) blow up the Hall of Justice cause they want the gubmint away from their heroes. Most GLs are still cool with people. Aquaman is liked if disrespected

And Batman Inc still exists. That's a billionaire financing a private international mercenaries(the way it's setup suggests they're paid even if we know they aren't.) and people are cool with it.

[jlbarnett]

of course lack of communication between the offices seems to be one of DCnU's problems

[arbre_rieur]

It's just the public of the DCU having different opinions of different DC heroes. It's not really contradictory, no more so than the public loving the Avengers but hating the X-Men over at Marvel.

[arbre_rieur]

But that's one book, and the public attitude seen there seems limited to teenaged heroes. Look at, as jlbarnett pointed out, the GL books, Aquaman, Animal Man, Superman, etc.

[kamino_neko]

Not really.

There are only a handful of titles where superhumans are shown as mistrusted, as a class - JL, Action, and Captain Atom (which, aside from a handful of comments in issue 1, seems to be directed at Atom himself, almost entirely). Teen Titans comments on metahuman teenagers (in relation to Kid Flash) being dangerous, but the Justice League is treated as a reliable resource to go to on the matter, so clearly it's the teenager part that's the problem, made worse by their metapowers, not the metahuman part. (IE, typical 'KIDS THESE DAYS' nonsense with a metahuman twist.)

Flash and Batman both have individual issues with their respective local authority figures, but that's never suggested as anything but targeted at them.

Green Arrow has a bit of anti-superhero sentiment presented, but it's from the people who watch a supervillain's 'watch me kill!' feed, so you have to assume a self-selecting sample - and they like the villain, so it's the 'hero' part, not the 'meta' part that prompts the anti-hero commentary (especially since, in this case, it's aimed at a non-meta). (Plus Ollie's not that much less of a putz than he was before the relaunch, so there's likely to be some venom directed against him personally.)

JLI, the on-Earth segments of GLC and New Guardians, Animal Man, Mister Terrific, Static Shock, and Hawk and Dove all present them as well liked.

Resurrection Man and Superboy (and the majority of Teen Titans) treats them as a resource to be exploited, not something to be inherently feared.

None of the others set in the present - or recent past - present people with any strong opinion toward metahumans in general. (LSH, their relationship with the SP and UP government are the same as it's always been.)

Aliens are presented as being mistrusted, on the whole - thus Superman being particularly vulnerable to the PR attack he's currently suffering, some of the bits with Starfire in Red Hood, and the premise of Voodoo - but that's not quite the same thing.

[jlbarnett]

"Look! Up in the sky! Is it a bird?! Is it a plane?! No, It's Superman!!"

That's the kind of reaction DC citizenry should have to heroes

[arbre_rieur]

Except all the times they haven't...

But Superman seems to be doing pretty fine in terms of public approval over in his present day title, so you don't have anything to worry about on that particular front.

[icon_uk]

Usually yes. Strange unknown woman wandering around the capital city with a big sword, and casually pointing it at innocent merchants, that I can see being grounds for minor fear.

[meowshi]

Not me, but that's probably the Marvel fan in me speaking.

Something about the civilians loving superheroes never felt right to me.

[jlbarnett]

I think it's far more natural. Look at the cult of celebrity that exists in the real world and superheroes meltdowns are almost never discovered by the outside world to make it fall apart.

[meowshi]

This is sort of a silly example, but consider how we treat "real life heroes". Like that costumed guy who was arrested and forbidden from teaching autistic children after being unmasked?

Maybe a less silly example would be how people generally treat cops. People hate them! Superheroes wouldn't be celebrities, they would be cops in colorful spandex.

And people would despise them. :p

[jlbarnett]

"real life heroes" don't stop alien invasions, and save thousands from natural disasters

Hee Hee Hee

[espanolbot]

Probably just me, or is anyone else getting Princess Luna vibes from Diana in the first few scans?

Like she suddenly appeared on a chariot pulled by pegasii and started talking to everyone in her Royal Amazonian Speaking Voice.

Imagining her yelling everything she's saying at the top of her lungs makes the scene a lot funnier.

Re: Hee Hee Hee

[q99]

It is Amazonian tradition to speak at this volume!

[mrosa]

"You're strong."

"I know."

Another pointless meta-moment. First it was Aquaman having to deal with being considered a joke in his fictional universe, which makes no sense. Now it's Superman voicing the fact that Diana is a "strong female character." It's sad to see creators using comics to have a dialogue with fans about... nothing.

[lieut_kettch]

Well, at the point in time, Superman had no knowledge of anyone able to match his strength. Until he met Diana.

[q99]

It is somewhat worth mentioning when the next most powerful person besides these two, Hal, is a joke who needs to be told how to use his powers, then she just steps in and clears the room.

Makes a splash, she does :)

[midnightvoyager]

I kinda agree. I didn't mind the Aquaman stuff so much, but all I can see is Superman's eyes pointing in different directions and speaking in a caveman voice.

"GIRL IS STRONG."
"uhhhh, I know."

And pointing with a sword? You don't do that in a polite, sword-wielding society, honey, much less a modern one. And AGAIN with the WHAT IS MODERN WORLD I AM CONFUSE.

And do we really need to harp on Batman not having powers? Again?

bleh. Just all reads dumb.

[icon_uk]

Other heroes being surprised that Batman doesn't have powers when they've never met him before I don't mind so much.

Totally agree on the sword situation though.

[sunaya]

Perhaps she's just intentionally messing with people with the sword pointing, given the reception of "Go home, evil pagan!" she appears to have gotten from the public thus far.

[meowshi]

But the fans have responded overwhelmingly positive to the Aquaman commentary. People have played the character completely straight several times, and it simply hasn't caught on as well.

[mrosa]

It worked very well in the '90s when Peter David wrote series. He didn't waste time addressing the popular conception of Aquaman. He just wrote Aquaman as a powerful, intelligent, charismatic superhero, and that did the trick.