[personal profile] jlbarnett posting in [community profile] scans_daily
Last week Supergirl guest starred in Superboy and delievered some shocking news.

Spoilers and a prediction beneath the cut




Namely that he'd eventually become a mindless killing machine. I was less than pleased with this. It seemed generic, trite and convienient.

Then today I realized something. Kryptonian clones always screw up. She was saying he was going to turn into a Bizarro. I'm just so used to Bizarro's being a problem with Earth technology not being good enough it didn't even occur to me.

Date: 2012-02-14 02:54 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
I suspect this'll be something that hangs over his head, but if it shows up as a problem it'll only be a temporary one.


So, I'm ok with this.

Date: 2012-02-14 03:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
yeah i see it as him saying, I don't WANT to go bad... i don't know if i want to go GOOD, but i DON"T want to go bad...

Date: 2012-02-14 03:34 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
It's something he'll angst about, and will probably bring him into conflict with Kara a few more times, but I doubt anything will come from it beyond that.

Remember he had the human DNA in the original continuity just because Kryptonian DNA is such a problem to clone - it'll probably have the same effect in this one.

I do kind of suspect a Bizarro will be hanging around that NOWHERE created before hitting on the idea of using human DNA to stabilise it. (IF they did, in fact, create Superboy, which has had contradictory statements about it both from the creators and in-universe.)

Date: 2012-02-14 03:59 am (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
"You're sane because you're half human" would be a neat twist.

Date: 2012-02-14 04:57 am (UTC)
auggie18: (Default)
From: [personal profile] auggie18
I actually sorta assumed that that's where they were going with this.

Date: 2012-02-14 05:11 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
Ditto.

Date: 2012-02-14 05:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pyrotwilight
I just figured it was Kara's negative view of cloning as seen through then modern Krypton views of cloning as awful.

Date: 2012-02-14 08:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Likewise. Kara presuming that because Krypton buggered up clones was doesn't mean that Kon will, was extremely presumptious of her.

Date: 2012-02-15 03:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] junipepper
Right, nice irony. Especially assuming the human DNA was from Lex Luthor in DCnU (has that been established? I don't think so.) "So, you're saying the reason I'm not a homicidal maniac is because Lex Luthor is my father? Fabulous..."

Date: 2012-02-15 10:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] liara_shadowsong
I kind of love the irony of that. Kon *not* being a homicidal maniac *because* of being the son of a supervillain is basically the most fabulous plot twist to ever come directly from information that is probably obvious to a lot of people at this point. This needs to be canon.

(And I think it's not officially established as of yet. But I seem to recall reading an interview transcription that strongly implied it... One of the earlier issues stated outright that he is half human, and basically said that because of the way the project was set up, the relatively nicer than most NOWHERE scientist he was talking to has no way of telling him, without some idea where to look for comparison samples and advanced DNA screening, who either of his donors is... but that while the Kryptonian pool is extremely limited, his human donor could be anyone from a Nobel Prize winner to a serial killer...)

Date: 2012-02-14 03:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] filthysize
Oh yes, same with anytime a main character on a show gets the doomed prophecy treatment. You know it's going to not happen or there's going to be a solution to it, because otherwise the whole show would end, but that doesn't mean they can't milk every angst and drama in the anticipation.

("Dean going to hell" from Supernatural Season 3 is the example that immediately comes to mind)

Date: 2012-02-14 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] shadur
Tiny image is tiny. I can't read the text.

Date: 2012-02-14 10:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] espanolbot
It amuses me that out of all the continuity that has been lost in the reboot, the Lois/Clark marriage, Wally West, Cass or Steph's time as Batgirl (apparently Gail said that there could only be one other Batgirl than Babs in the new DCU) etc, that some of the stuff that they decided to keep was the Black Zero "Kryptonians really hate clones!" deal.

I mean, I'm aware of it and all, and I don't think that it was used for any kind of stories with Conner way back when (other than angst because being related to Lex Luthor was interpreted as he could potentially be EVIL, like all relatives of villains in the mid- to late 2000s), but not with the anti-clone Kryptonian thing.

I'm with ya...

Date: 2012-02-14 12:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverzeo
I read the 90s series, and in that book, Kon-El's story was more like if Peter Pan went with Wendy outside of Neverland. It was unique take of a clone story, as well as being like a reversal road for Superboy, starting out as Superman and working to being Conner Kent.

Date: 2012-02-14 02:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wizardru
See, I thought they were implying a 'Doomsday' clone scenario, not a Bizarro one.

Date: 2012-02-14 08:23 pm (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
I suspect Doomsday is a Worldkiller, not a clone. Just the impression I got from that whole plotline over in Supergirl.

Bizarros fit the 'clone' thing better, since it's a long-established thing that Bizarros are the result of attempting to clone Kryptonians.

Date: 2012-02-14 09:21 pm (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
True. I was thinking Doomsday because he was specifically a Kyptonian attempt at cloning, while Bizarro has always been a human attempt.

...which Superboy is. So I'm not sure why I thought that. DUH.

On the other hand, Doomsday might be WHY the Kryptonians fear clones so much in the new continuity.

Date: 2012-02-15 04:03 am (UTC)
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kamino_neko
I was thinking Doomsday because he was specifically a Kyptonian attempt at cloning,

Not unless that was retconned when I wasn't looking. (Which checking Wiki, it doesn't seem to have been, but he's also picked up Clark's DNA at some point, which is something I never knew.)

He was cloned, on Krypton, but not by Kryptonians, or from a Kryptonian - rather by a pre-Kryptonian society who happened to be using the extreme pre-historic Kryptonian environment in an experiment in forced evolution.

This isn't particularly in line with the Worldkillers, either, of course, but, still....

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