I saw the preview for this a while back when Bleeding Cool was pushing it--the whole "Batman and Robin analogues are secretly gay!" thing felt VERY trite, but everything else felt kinda cool and interesting. I would have gotten it today, but I was already pushing my budget for this week.
I am curious to know whether this book will keep it identifiably suburbia-relationships centred (as opposed to being a superhero book that also has relationship stuff, you know?). From the pages featurig Hella I question the depths that the writing will plumb - maybe it's just easing in, but that segment seems thrown in for the fast food factor. 'Delicious' trash for the sake of brassiness, y'know?
I dunno, maybe I just don't care much about the suburban environment.
Apparently she spent a lot of time rescuing her old love interest who we haven't seen much of in crisis-land, so it vaguely fits.
Personally I don't know if a whole comic of this will really work, but frankly if they put stuff like Wonder Woman being comically from-a-warrior-culture with a husband and bacon-loving children into the background of her real comic it would improve the franchise dramatically.
Yeah. Out of the three families they've shown us here, I'm definitely most interested in Batu's. Also feel like they could get the most mileage out of her relationships, there's a lot of places you can go. (Is her husband just a means to end, ie, getting a daughter? Does she care about her son as much as her daughter? How does that effect the relationship between her two children? Etc...)
One, you do not tell someone who risks his life for people constantly he is replaceable, no matter what he did to you. And if he's any good and their apparent empire suggests he is,, then he really isn't. Especially if there's any super loyalty in this u.
secondly, the way the exposition is handled. "oh, this is just everyday life for us, but let's talk in details about things we've surely gone over hundreds of times."
"No matter what he did to you?" Isn't it a bit much to expect her to be polite and rational when she just caught him schtupping his sidekick in the Fox-cave?
And, well... just because he risks his life for people, doesn't mean he ISN'T replaceable. Firefighters and policemen still get fired and replaced. Haven't half the superheros we know been replaced at some point, usually fairly successfully? And in this particular scenario... I gather from the 'old money' thing in here brief bio, and what she says later, that all the money for the Night Fox equipment and gear and cave and things comes from her initial investment and her continued management. It's her dime.
So there's basically two ways this can go. She can break things off with him personally but carry on professionally, continuing to pay for his utility belt and fox-car and the rent on the cave she caught him screwing around in.
Or, if she can't bear to continue the partnership in any form, professional or personal... she fires him, hires another worthy candidate to be Night Fox, and he creates another super identity that she doesn't own.
She can break things off with him personally but carry on professionally, continuing to pay for his utility belt and fox-car and the rent on the cave she caught him screwing around in.
And presumably continue to enjoy the profits of the lucrative franchise she has established.
If he tries to pull 'I'm the real Night Fox', she can just point out that she canned his ass because he was cheating on her with the Robin-Expy and get most of the goodwill lost back.
I think the lady can be excused for being somewhat rattled. She just found out her most trusted partner broke his most intimate promises to her and betrayed her on a fundamental level. Give her time to cool down and process that.
HURR HURR, HERE ARE OUR BATMAN AND ROBIN ANALOGUES AND THEY'RE GAY!! GET THE JOKE? BECAUSE IT'S LIKE ADAM WEST AND BURT WARD LOOKED KINDA GAY! HURR HURR HURRRR!!!
No, Midnighter was actually an interesting analogue, and he was never just 'Gay Batman'. His story, and Apollo's, tied in to Bendix's ongoing story. This is just more like the thumbnail versions of the two characters we saw in Ultra, whose joke was literally that they're meant to be like Batman and Robin and were ostensibly gay.
Yeah, that's kind of the vibe I'm getting, as well. The only one that really seems interesting to me is the notDiana character. The batman-analogue, based on this, just seems almost cliche' at this point. I get the twist of 'and he was secretly gay and his wife JUST found out about it' seems more than a trifle forced. I'm supposed to believe that a super-organized CEO running an empire based around her superhero-husband never noticed he was gay? Not terrible, but kinda throws me out of the story.
Has potential, but I'm not sure whether it can transcend some of its concept, per se.
I'm negatively reminded of Firefly, which also had a good setup that they used only for trite, cliched stories. If they can avoid that mistake, this might be interesting.
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Date: 2012-03-07 11:41 pm (UTC)I dunno, maybe I just don't care much about the suburban environment.
Interested to see where the title goes, though.
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Date: 2012-03-10 09:00 am (UTC)Personally I don't know if a whole comic of this will really work, but frankly if they put stuff like Wonder Woman being comically from-a-warrior-culture with a husband and bacon-loving children into the background of her real comic it would improve the franchise dramatically.
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Date: 2012-03-08 12:31 am (UTC)I can see her coming home, a freshly killed animal slung over her shoulder and saying: "Jeffrey, the children shall eat" XD
Feel bad for the daughter's possible mental scars. Though she seems to have gotten over it by the next panel. That kid is resilient.
Interesting book. I'll probably at least take a look at this one.
Thanks for sharing!
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Date: 2012-03-08 12:56 am (UTC)She completely ignore him.
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Date: 2012-03-08 03:33 am (UTC)One, you do not tell someone who risks his life for people constantly he is replaceable, no matter what he did to you. And if he's any good and their apparent empire suggests he is,, then he really isn't. Especially if there's any super loyalty in this u.
secondly, the way the exposition is handled. "oh, this is just everyday life for us, but let's talk in details about things we've surely gone over hundreds of times."
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Date: 2012-03-08 05:08 am (UTC)And, well... just because he risks his life for people, doesn't mean he ISN'T replaceable. Firefighters and policemen still get fired and replaced. Haven't half the superheros we know been replaced at some point, usually fairly successfully? And in this particular scenario... I gather from the 'old money' thing in here brief bio, and what she says later, that all the money for the Night Fox equipment and gear and cave and things comes from her initial investment and her continued management. It's her dime.
So there's basically two ways this can go. She can break things off with him personally but carry on professionally, continuing to pay for his utility belt and fox-car and the rent on the cave she caught him screwing around in.
Or, if she can't bear to continue the partnership in any form, professional or personal... she fires him, hires another worthy candidate to be Night Fox, and he creates another super identity that she doesn't own.
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Date: 2012-03-08 12:01 pm (UTC)And presumably continue to enjoy the profits of the lucrative franchise she has established.
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Date: 2012-03-08 10:14 pm (UTC)If he tries to pull 'I'm the real Night Fox', she can just point out that she canned his ass because he was cheating on her with the Robin-Expy and get most of the goodwill lost back.
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Date: 2012-03-08 12:38 pm (UTC)Midnighter was once the same "Hurr Durr Gay Batman".
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Date: 2012-03-08 12:44 pm (UTC)Has potential, but I'm not sure whether it can transcend some of its concept, per se.
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Date: 2012-03-08 04:21 pm (UTC)*And considering that the Ancient Egyptians invented bacon, I'm blaming the writer and not the faux-Ancient Greek character.
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