CT: Tomb Raider - Icon Deconstruction
Jun. 19th, 2012 09:01 pmCasstoons Returns, but on a serious note about the... disturbing route that a particular iconic female character appears to be going in the Square Enix Reboot of the franchise.
Trigger warning for discussion of rape, implied child abuse and sexism.

This strip was inspired by the trailer for the new Tomb Raider games, which has a teenage Lara Croft being trapped on a desert island and learning the skills she'd later need to become a badass action heroine/grave robber.
The trailer, however, seemed less weighted towards Lara being badass, and more towards various unpleasant things happening to her while she looks all scared and sad. And one of those things involves Lara being stalked and... creepily pawed by some bearded guy.
The "cornered animal" quote comes this from interview about the game, which is serving as a reboot now that the franchise is being produced by Squire Enix.
http://kotaku.com/5917400/youll-want-to-protect-the-new-less-curvy-lara-croft
And reading through the article, it makes it seem less like they're talking about Lara Croft, and more about making her the generic female lead in a particularly bad survival horror movie from the mid-2000s. *sigh*
The game COULD be good... though the addition of rape to it REALLLLLY isn't welcome, nor is the idea that you act as Lara's "Helper" in the game as if she's weak and stuff. As I said, I get that it's meant to show Lara going from being a posh girl out of her element and becoming battle hardened... but they could have chosen another way to do this.
Another link as to WHY the above interview is disturbing here.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/06/12/the-new-lara-croft/
Trigger warning for discussion of rape, implied child abuse and sexism.

This strip was inspired by the trailer for the new Tomb Raider games, which has a teenage Lara Croft being trapped on a desert island and learning the skills she'd later need to become a badass action heroine/grave robber.
The trailer, however, seemed less weighted towards Lara being badass, and more towards various unpleasant things happening to her while she looks all scared and sad. And one of those things involves Lara being stalked and... creepily pawed by some bearded guy.
The "cornered animal" quote comes this from interview about the game, which is serving as a reboot now that the franchise is being produced by Squire Enix.
http://kotaku.com/5917400/youll-want-to-protect-the-new-less-curvy-lara-croft
And reading through the article, it makes it seem less like they're talking about Lara Croft, and more about making her the generic female lead in a particularly bad survival horror movie from the mid-2000s. *sigh*
The game COULD be good... though the addition of rape to it REALLLLLY isn't welcome, nor is the idea that you act as Lara's "Helper" in the game as if she's weak and stuff. As I said, I get that it's meant to show Lara going from being a posh girl out of her element and becoming battle hardened... but they could have chosen another way to do this.
Another link as to WHY the above interview is disturbing here.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/06/12/the-new-lara-croft/
no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 08:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 08:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 08:30 pm (UTC)And then just before Square Enix took the title they'd rebooted a significant amount of the title, redoing her backstory, making her more recluctant to go around murdering people and giving her some actual motivation beyond stealing stuff for kicks.
This further rebuilding of the character... just seems to be being put together by people who didn't play or read about the games, and are rebuilding them in a way that makes it seem that they didn't like them much. Like the attitude towards Steph Brown towards the end of her original run in the comics, for example.
(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 08:54 pm (UTC)Rape is never a subject I enjoy and rarely is it one treated properly, but it's the "root for her in à way they might not root for à male character" quote that really pisses me off. There are just so many aweful assumptions there. Also, violence, sex, or any combination thereof does not make your work "mature", you giant prick.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 09:07 pm (UTC)Now suddenly the character has to be rewritten to make her "female", which involves making her weak while packs of men try to rape her... wah?
Seems weird that we go from the previous games, where they humanised Lara enough to make a point of the fact that she isn't just wiping out hoards of human enemies with no mental reprecussions (the fact that she was forced to an enemy she was actually on friendly terms with hits her pretty badly), they then go to the other extreme of the original character, who came across as kind of sociopathic at times.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 09:06 pm (UTC)that said...
i don't know... the implied rape/Attempted sexual assault DEFINATELY bothers me. OH That isn't even IMPLIED... that's the actual intent... okay yeah not okay with that.
the rest though... i don't mind a "survival" story idea. I like films/movies/stories where a less than action oriented character get's shaped inot a badass.
that said... the fact that laura's "girl" friends are victims while the rest seem to be a group of men strikes me as problematic as well. Why aren't any of her guy friends victims?
the only way i could see this as a potential story (this plot line) would be if she realizes the ineptness of the men she is with and goes on to save her friends herself...
i also want to say that this seems alot more like a Resident Evil game than a Tomb Raider game. (again only have the movies to compare it to)
i don't know, like you said... it could actually turn out to be a really cool game... doesn't make me feel more comfortable about what we HAVE seen...
no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 09:21 pm (UTC)I was in a closed-doors showing of the game at last year's E3, and while the opening ten minutes or so comes off like B-roll from one of the Hostel movies, they then showed a sequence where Lara has to navigate this ancient shipwreck in search of a first-aid kit to save an older, wounded man.
So naturally, instead of focusing on that, they're pursuing the creepy protection angle in an attempt to draw in those crucial 15-24 males. The irritating thing is that I know a lot of these guys, and they're not stupid, which means they're doing this because it tends to work.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 09:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 09:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 10:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 10:34 pm (UTC)We are not shocked, we are annoyed and frustrated. Rape has damn nearly become the default backstory for female characters. It's everywhere. It turns a serious, sensitive issue into cookie-cutter cheap shock value to cover up the lack of substance. It's lazy and insulting.
As for the unrealism argument... Prison rape is ridiculously common, in real life men are often raped when they are captured by enemy combatants or put in jail, yet for some reason in videogames the male hero is never threatened with rape in prison settings. I WONDER WHY. COULD IT POSSIBLY BE BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE THE PLAYERS FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE AND FUCK GENUINE REALISM IN VIDEOGAMES IF IT'S NOT MARKETABLE TO DUDEBROS.
I'm going to quote a friend of mine to more clearly explain why the TR reboot pissed us off.
In Resistance 3 - a game that has a dark, gritty feel, where most of the Earth's population has been wiped out, and that covers a whole host of other mature themes - your protagonist is thrown into an prison. And not just any prison, a prison in an area notorious for male-on-male rape.
Naturally, nothing happened to him, nor was he threatened, nor was it ever alluded to happening to anyone else in said prison (lol, yeah right). Even though it would have upped the horror of the scenario well past 11.
But the second you throw a woman into a difficult situation in a grim!dark setting? RAPE, RAPE EVERYWHERE.
(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 10:36 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 02:34 pm (UTC)Um.. I'm sorry - and not to distract from the larger discussion and issues at hand - but did you even SEE some of the old images they produced alongside the first three to four games? Not only did you have this impossibly waisted, balloon-breasted male fantasy, but they were putting her in all sorts of images like her clutching her bedsheets or reclining nude on her bed. Yes, they were still interesting, awesome games to play, but the sexism has been there since the start, and was barely toned down for Legend and Underworld.
Also, she was made a teenage girl before for one of the earlier parts of the fourth game, I believe? And complaining about her being 'captured' - are we saying that no-one who gets caught in a game or piece of media can be awesome, now?
(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 10:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-19 10:37 pm (UTC)(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 12:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 12:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 01:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 01:49 am (UTC)In this case, why? Why does Lara need to have sexual harassment in her backstory to be a badass? Granted, the whole idea of tragedy being needed for someone to be a badass hero is an iffy one -- one issue of Daredevil featured here attacked that concept -- but adding sexual harassment to it just makes it worse.
Writers need to ask themselves if this sort of thing is REALLY necessary for the story to proceed. If it's not, then don't. And in this case, I really don't see why it's needed.
A shame too. The Tomb Raider franchise has already been through so much, and this trailer alone might kill any hope for this revival.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 03:16 pm (UTC)Eehhh, gonna have to disagree with you there. See the Supermodel/Rapist sitcom idea and the Aquaman versus rapist sketch for examples as for why.
Even in the Simpsons they had a recent episode that kind of skeeved me out to be honest. If had Jimbo Jones' teenage girlfriend getting a crush on Bart (who is 10), showing him her boobs and frenchkissing him over and over again. Maybe it's hypocritical, but Bart having a crush on a teenager is okay, even cute, if it doesn't go anywhere, but when it's the opposite and initiated by the opposite side... yeah, it's a whole mess of creepy.
They did at least seem to acknowledge it, in episode though, with Bart feeling harassed by it due to him not being old enough to deal with that kind of thing.
(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 05:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 05:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
From:Well...
From:Re: Well...
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 09:00 am (UTC)Okay, so first we have the completely unneeded inclusion of rape in some misguided effort to make Tomb Raider "mature". Again violence/sex/combo does not maturity make, in fact it appeals more to the immature among us, remembering when I was more of a little brat. It's not just misguided "maturity", it's lazy. This is one of those sad trends video games seem to follow in an effort to get some respect from Hollywood, because actually developing games that are fun to play, well, I could imagine no worse fate.
Rape is one of those things frivolously thrown in there to add maturity. Of course, rape only happens to women, because it could never happen to strong, manly men. It makes them deep and sympathetic too. It says some bad things about men, that they can't keep their dick in their pants when presented with the slightest oppertunity to take what they want from Lara Croft, but it says something just as bad, if not worse, about women.
Which brings me to "Protection", and not the fun kind. Lara Croft has long been a strong, independent woman, if in the same way Hollywood has been known to write those (ie. badly), and yet we, the player, are expected to protect her from every bushman with no self-control, which in this fucked up world is all of them. I know video games are supposed to instill a sense of agency but this view essentially turns Lara into a Damsel in Distress without a fancy dress. Women in this dispicable worldview aren't people, not really, they have no sense of agency; they are things to be won, protected, taken, sworn vengeance over their cooling body. That's why rape only happens to them here.
And Mr. Rosenburg, may he go find some putrid shit and dive in it, explicitly says we want to protect her more because she's a woman. Not only is that sexist and manipulative in relation to the males this is obviously targeted at, but it makes "player" synonymous with those males. Women play games too. Go fuck yourself.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 10:15 am (UTC)Also: It adds to a pervasive and alarming idea that to not rape is to be a hero; that it's an active stance, to not be a rapist.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 09:16 am (UTC)guys
guys
Can't we get a rape origin for male characters
it would make them SO MUCH MORE DARK AND DRIVEN AND SYMPATHETIC
Un-fucking-necessary, especially for a character like Lara Croft.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 11:37 am (UTC)(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 09:47 am (UTC)On the plus side, Lego Batman 2 is out this weekend, so I'm happy!
no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 09:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 10:13 am (UTC)(no subject)
From:no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 02:25 pm (UTC)OLIVER QUEEN.
Of course, he's a MANLY MAN, and so he can do things like FIGHT CRIME and BEAT PEOPLE UP without needing his motivations explained.
------
I have some pretty massive problems with this marketing campaign. One, I won't watch the trailer all the way through because I'm a high school teacher and they're basically doing high school torture porn. Sorry, I'm not down with that. (Maybe you should show me Lara solving problems and being badass to overcome challenges instead of PAIN FALL STAB OW SCREAM SCREAM, marketing guys.) Two, this weird paternalistic voyeur protective shit is right out. I want to identify as the character, not as some sort of weird puppetmaster. Talk about totally fucking up the essential mechanic of video game experience. Oh and hey, my identifying as the character? Offers a potentially powerful way to touch on the subject of sexual assault and menace in a way that might challenge some men's preconceptions... but man, if that marketing team had anything to do with the story, zero good faith will be extended. Three, well, three is basically the part where I flail my arms about and make incoherent sputtering noises at how full of fail this is. The thing is, there may be a decent game in there, but this marketing campaign has basically ensured that I won't play it.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 02:40 pm (UTC)It is somewhat bizarre that they decided that THIS was the route that they wanted to go with one of the leading feminist characters of the 1990s Pop Culture. It's like if they remade Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but instead having her be kind of stupid and rely on her male friend to help her out (in otherwords, the original pre-tv show movie version) or if they rebooted the X-Files with Scully played with someone more in line with their original idea for who should play the character before they went with Gillian Anderson, ie Pamela Anderson.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 04:57 pm (UTC)If writers really want to do better, they simply need to focus on writing a strong character first, not a strong "female" character. I really don't understand why this so hard.
no subject
Date: 2012-06-20 05:06 pm (UTC)From what I've read the idea, from one of the writers of the aforementioned series, Greg Rucka, is that when you're writing a good female character you also have to take into account things like what society she's living in and how it might effect her personality. Renee didn't have the same background pressures as her colleague Maggie Sawyer, or even her brother, for example.
The problem with that approach is that people then overcompensate, so you end up with the above situation which appears to presume that because Lara comes from Old Money and that she'd been to a lot of posh schools, she'd be bugger all use in a survival situation. This is despite it being canon that her father was an adventurer archeologist in his own right, her mother was perfectly capable of taking care of a young Lara and herself when their plane crashed in Tibet, and that Lara had been surrounded by various adventuring sorts her entire life due to the network of friends her family had made (they're friends with an Irish priest who specialises in combatting demons, for example).
So yeah.