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So. If Hades now loves himself, then wouldn't that mean Hell will become a much better place as a result?

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Date: 2012-06-24 05:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] grimmbear
While I'm not sure of the need to make Zeus her father, I do love the book right now. The blend of mythology and super heroics is good but the characterization of the gods is spot on.
I'm glad they are making Diana more than a Superman clone, it's so easy to write her as that.

Date: 2012-06-24 05:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
That is one hideous outfit that Diana has on there, what IS that thing on her chest? It's like she made her bodice using origami.

If Hades now loves himself, then wouldn't that mean Hell will become a much better place as a result

Why? Self obsession isn't much good.

Besides, Hades doesn't look after Hell, he looks after the Underworld, which in Greek Myth includes both Heaven (The Elysian fields) and Hell (Tartarus).

Oh, and someone did love themselves more than Eros; Narcissus!

Date: 2012-06-24 05:24 pm (UTC)
amaresu: Sapphire and Steel from the opening (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaresu
To be fair Diana didn't design the wedding dress.

Oh, and someone did love themselves more than Eros; Narcissus!

I'm thinking they meant more of the healthy self-love than the Narcissus kind of love.

Date: 2012-06-24 07:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] perletwo
Why is everybody all green? (Yes, I know, they're in the underworld, but still.)

Date: 2012-06-24 07:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Yes, but he doesn't love himself. The message being put across here isn't self-obsession, but that to get other people to love you - as he wanted Diana to - then you first have to love or at least like some aspects of yourself. If you don't like anything about yourself, what hope do you have with anyone else loving you?

Date: 2012-06-24 07:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mrstatham
You answered your own question there, I think.

Date: 2012-06-24 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lonewolf23k
At the very least, I think Zeus being Diana's father is something that can be later on retconned as a lie.

Date: 2012-06-24 08:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
This reminds me of something Dr. Drew Pinsky once said about Narcissus. The thing most people don't "get" about Narcissus isn't that he fell in love with his own reflection, it's that Narcissus didn't recognize himself.

Date: 2012-06-24 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
Wait, I thought Eros was Ares' (or sometimes Hermes') son, but not Hephaestus.

Date: 2012-06-24 08:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jeyl
"It's true."

You're not.

Date: 2012-06-24 09:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] valismedsen
I don't read this, but I gotta say the image of this child with candles lit over his head and molten wax dripping over his eyes is just awesome! And the fact that this is Hades makes it even more creepier. What a fantastic character design!

Date: 2012-06-24 09:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] his_spiffynesss
I think they are going for a bit more monogamy between the gods (Zeus excepted) I kind of like the idea that Aphrodite and Hephaestus are in a committed loving relationship. In fact, maybe she's the one pulling the stings in this story line.

Date: 2012-06-24 10:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] q99
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I'm glad they are making Diana more than a Superman clone, it's so easy to write her as that.-

When would you say she is one?

I don't feel she's been one in Rucka's run, Gail's run, or, say, the Waid/Kelly JLA run.

Date: 2012-06-24 10:58 pm (UTC)
perletwo: odyssey wondy (amazon noir)
From: [personal profile] perletwo
So Hell is lit entirely by bad fluorescent tube bulbs, like in gymnasiums? ...actually, I could kinda see that.

Date: 2012-06-24 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I think it's terrible, especially since I'm pretty sure Hades was the oldest of himself, Posedian and Zeus.

Date: 2012-06-24 11:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zabilac
They're gods, I'm pretty sure they can look whatever they want.

Date: 2012-06-24 11:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lascoden
Poseidon is a big fish thing, so yeah. Plus, Hades assumes a different, older (and more evil, I guess) looking appearance in another part of the book.

Date: 2012-06-25 12:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tsunamiwombat
I know "it's never just you" but i'm not the only one who thought of a million masturbation jokes after this right

Date: 2012-06-25 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cypherfdp
"I... I had hair under all that wax? Well that changes everything! I'm awesome!"

Date: 2012-06-25 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] whitesycamore
Why? Self obsession isn't much good

Does self love necessarily mean self obsession? I love lots of people, but I'm not obsessed with any of them!

The only thing I am obsessed with is vengeance.

Date: 2012-06-25 01:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sir_mikael
I hope he uses it as hair product in the obligatory feel-better-about-myself makeover.

Date: 2012-06-25 02:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
I love pre-Hellenic Greek mythology with a love that knows no bounds.

This version may actually be worse than Disney.

Date: 2012-06-25 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I really dislike this book right now. I admit I dropped it a few issues ago but I just don't see anything really good about it.

The gods are weird variations of the characters that make no sense to me and I can think of no justification for.

And the women in this book. It's a wonder if a woman is portrayed positively.

Diana strikes me as pretty cold. I mean she's not really nasty but she's not as open as Diana should be.

The Amazons are flat evil, as was Strife.

The only thing I know about Zola is she's pregnant and she likes a certain type of guy.

Hera punishes the wrong people.

Persephone is apparently pretty dumb and possibly selfish. Her mother loved her so much she lets the world go to hell for half a year because she's absent. And she decides to try to escape the lord of the dead by killing herself? Unbelievable.

Date: 2012-06-25 02:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nefrekeptah
Yeah, but that's the popular opinion of her. Most people think of Wonder Woman, they think of "Girl Superman." There's been other writers who've combated this, sure, but to be honest, writers like Rucka and Gail only last for a few years before moving on, and Wonder Woman has been in publication for decades.
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