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Following Onomatopoeia, a serial killer who targets unpowered superheroes, stabbing the Joker in the chest to escape Batman, and he's forced to chose between saving the Joker's life and catching his killer. To Commissioner Gordon's confusion, Batman decides to let Ono' escape so he can get the Joker medical treatment, despite the Commissioner saying that, basically, "I'm not asking you to kill him, I'm just asking you not to save him", despite Batman saying that he's a human being despite his being a monster, how he can't make choices because he's insane etc. etc.
Anyway, five months later, Batman sneaks into the Joker's hospital room while pretending to be his court appointed lawyer to explain why he didn't just let him die.







Anyway, five months later, Batman sneaks into the Joker's hospital room while pretending to be his court appointed lawyer to explain why he didn't just let him die.







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Date: 2012-07-01 11:27 am (UTC)Don't like Joker knowing that Matches Malone is a fake ID for Batman, why would he, after all?
The black beard on the Joker is also odd (and annoyingly distracting), since the accident would surely have affected all the hair follicles on his head.
The rest of the discussion? Pretty sure I've seen much and such the same before.
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Date: 2012-07-01 11:47 am (UTC)Smith's Joker being able to immediately see through people's disguise's is meant to be a running theme in this and the next story that he wrote. For example, in the sequel Batman took a vigilante he'd kind of taken under his wing for a visit to Arkham, and it's kind of shown that the Joker immediately works out who the guy (who had captured Mr J on his last rampage).
And Batman was forced to save the Joker as he was injured in such a way that he needed immediate medical attention, stabbed in the heart and nicking a ventricle, so he felt that he didn't have a choice but to go after Onomatopoeia later.
This decision came to bite him in the ass, in a cliffhanger ending to the Widening Gyre showed. Though due to the poor sales to that series... it's unlikely ever to be resolved.
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Date: 2012-07-01 11:54 am (UTC)Something about the way it's drawn makes me unable to help imagining what it would be like to touch it, and that thought disgusts me to my very soul.
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Date: 2012-07-01 12:25 pm (UTC)Hell, the Atom saved the Joker a few years ago, so there's plenty of blame to go around.
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Date: 2012-07-01 11:57 am (UTC)And while he's very sane here, I get the feeling he's just saying that to push Batman's buttons. I mean, seriously. If it's not actually the truth, he'll MAKE it the truth, because that's the punchline to his whole big joke. He won't stop while Batman lives, and he has no reason to get on as the Joker when Batman dies. And knowing that is probably killing Batman inside right now.
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Date: 2012-07-01 12:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-07-01 12:29 pm (UTC)Carrot Top.
Creepiest fucking Joker EVER.
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Date: 2012-07-01 12:33 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-07-01 12:50 pm (UTC)He himself admitted that Cacophony wasn't really the best Batman story he could have written, and points out that some of the things people criticised the book for (dialogue that doesn't sound natural when read aloud, for example) are correct and resulted in a lot of redrafts when he noticed it.
In a lot of ways tWG is an interesting idea of what would Batman be like when he realises that he's not as young as he used to be, and begins to start seriously thinking about his future. It has a couple of good moments, such as him noticing for the first time that he's genuinely happy, which means (to him) that his girlfriend must be a robot or something sent to mess with him, only for Bruce to break down after she's shown to be who she said she was when he begins to realise that he'll "never be normal".
His Green Arrow run was genuinely good though, and no where this or its sequel in terms of tone.
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Date: 2012-07-01 01:24 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-07-01 04:50 pm (UTC)I enjoy Joker stories. I think they are fun as long as the concept of the Joker is not too closely examined. Because the real answer, just as the real answer with Batman being the greatest detective ever, is that the writers love the Joker. The only way either of these characters keeps going is "authoral favor". Or we assume things outside of cannon like "magic is real, the joker is the incarnation of madness".
So I agree with you totally, I think I am just coming at it from a slightly different direction.
Unless the Joker is lying and he is just as crazy as ever. If Batman is wrong about the Joker being sane, I know heresy that the Batman could ever be wrong about anything, then this is the Joker playing with his favorite toy and doing bang up acting job.
Not that it makes this a good story or good writing, but it is a way to dismiss it, to put our fingers in our ears and say, "Lalala, your story was stupid and it did not happen."
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Date: 2012-07-01 04:53 pm (UTC)Well, it's not like this thing magically cured him from wanting to kill--he's still a psychotic who wants to see Batman dead. He's just not immediately plotting to break out of the hospital, blow it up in the process, and cause another crime spree.
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Date: 2012-07-01 04:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-01 04:46 pm (UTC)http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/36298-796-40541-1-batman_super.jpg
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Date: 2012-07-01 06:04 pm (UTC)I dunno, the idea that Batman is partly to blame for the Joker's victims' fates is sort of ludicrous. It's not like Batman is the only person in existence who could kill Joker. Joker is just as mortal as any human. You might as well say it's the cops' fault for not killing him while they have him in custody, or the doctors' fault for treating him properly or not injecting an air bubble into his IV.
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Date: 2012-07-01 09:54 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-07-02 09:46 pm (UTC)I am reminded of the story though where Joker thinks Batman dies and "snaps" back to sanity and tries to start a normal life only to go crazy again.
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Date: 2012-08-18 01:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-07-03 12:55 am (UTC)I don't believe the Joker, though. He changes his mind even more than Two-Face.
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Date: 2012-07-04 07:29 pm (UTC)