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Oh yay, surely this will be a well thought out series that in no way resembles it's predecessor, which, if you didn't know, was basically an unpleasant powertrip of a book about "Batman with Joker's personality" who, amongst other things, impregnates a teenage girl with her brother's sperm and somehow rigs her womb to implode if she decides to have an abortion, partly to "punish" her for having a termination so she could go to college, partly to screw with her brother, who is gay, but mostly just for the amusement of seeing what the knowledge of what he did messes with their dad! :DDDD



Of course, let's not even get into THAT ending, where it turned out that everything in the book was plotted out years in advance, even down to things like the girl deciding to bring the (three) resulting kids to term and her parents deciding to adopt them before retiring, and going to a very specific island resort where the conspiracy dudes left a megaexpensive bottle of wine and a note explaining how everything was planned from the start! :D

Blech.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40203

Date: 2012-08-01 09:17 pm (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Batman & Robin)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Millar's always been on/off for me (I enjoyed the first Kick-Ass) but Nemesis just seemed pointlessly nihilistic. And it actually had an interesting premise (what if the Joker had the resources and intelligence of Batman).

Still I'll give Millar credit for giving it a somewhat happy ending in having the cop win and being able to pick up the pieces with his life.

Date: 2012-08-01 10:55 pm (UTC)
cypherfdp: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cypherfdp
Good Things Caused by Mark Millar:
The Kick-Ass Movie
Superior
I think some Superman stuff?
Maybe some Flash stuff, too?

Bad Things Caused by Mark Millar:
Almost Everything Else

Date: 2012-08-01 11:17 pm (UTC)
oldmanrain: (Hellboy kitty)
From: [personal profile] oldmanrain
*looks through his bibliography
Wow he was involved in Ultimate Fantastic Four? Never would of guessed, that was a great series.

Date: 2012-08-02 12:27 am (UTC)
jcbaggee: Jesus (Default)
From: [personal profile] jcbaggee
Maybe he's one of those writers who does his best work when there's an editor right behind him to say no.

"What? You want Johnny and Sue to be lovers? ....No. No, Mark. Just...just no. What's this page? Mark, The Thing can't eat Lockjaw! Stop that!"

Date: 2012-08-02 11:06 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
*snorts*

And yet most of whatever was good about his UFF run was thrown out the window when he did his regular FF run, which was.. Just boring. And had some of the hallmarks of his usual work in there, like the idea that we were supposed to find the notion of a gay Reed and Johnny being together to be funny, which I recall from one of his interviews.

I really don't know what happened to Millar. He comes up with some promising stuff and concepts, but utterly squanders them with an almost frat-boy approach.

Date: 2012-08-02 11:19 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
like the idea that we were supposed to find the notion of a gay Reed and Johnny being together to be funny

It makes me smile at any rate, same family, different sibling!

Date: 2012-08-02 12:56 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Well it *is* kind of amusing on one level, but it just annoyed me because it's Millar, and you just know he meant it in that 'haha, that's gay' kind of sense. Like, it was done more for the joke and it felt pejorative more than it actually meant anything.

Date: 2012-08-02 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
I liked Swamp Thing, Aztek and Skrull Kill Krew as well, but as with the Flash run, that was with Grant Morrison as co-pilot. I think pretty much everything I liked about them was Morrisony.

Date: 2012-08-02 08:13 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
The messed-up adventures of Millar continue!~
*moves away*

Date: 2012-08-02 11:40 am (UTC)
wizardru: Hellboy (Default)
From: [personal profile] wizardru
I intend to spend twice as much money on this as I did on the first series.

Of course, 2 x 0 =....well, you get the idea.

I find it very hard to reconcile Mark Millar, as a writer. He's capable of good things...and then he writes stuff like THIS.

Date: 2012-08-02 01:04 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Again, he puts together some solid concepts. Nemesis isn't a bad concept. But it's just the execution. The execution of these stories is vile and puerile and misogynistic and just generally disgusting. I do question whether or not Millar genuinely has a problem against women, given Nemesis' infamous setup and THAT scene in Kickass 2...

Date: 2012-08-02 02:18 pm (UTC)
ilmari: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ilmari
I have zero interest in buying this, though I am vaguely fascinated in how he'll try to top himself with the 'shock moments' this time around.

The whole concept of the incest baby/womb bomb is laughable out of context (probably in context too), so I kind of want to know what ridiculously offensive crap he can think up of this time - just to shake my head at it and say, 'Oh Mark Millar, what will you come up with next?'.

Date: 2012-08-03 03:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] darkblade
Sometimes I think Millar writes his shock factor plot points by reading "Dubs decides what I do to (insert someone known to poster here)" threads on /b/.

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