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So apparently Liefeld may have copied panels from Marv Wolfman and George Perez' Deathstroke origin while pretending it was entirely new...

Homage or referencing fail? You be the judge!



More here,
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/14/swipe-file-rob-liefeld-marv-wolfman-and-george-perez/

Date: 2012-09-14 10:46 pm (UTC)
skemono: I read dead racists (Default)
From: [personal profile] skemono
So he can have a picture of a gun right in front of him and still have no idea what one looks like?

Date: 2012-09-14 10:50 pm (UTC)
his_spiffynesss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] his_spiffynesss
Yep, he seems constitutionally incapable of creating anything resembling an actual weapon. Though his capacity to detail those giant phallic extensions he gives his heroes can occasionally be impressive in their ridiculousness.

Date: 2012-09-14 10:47 pm (UTC)
his_spiffynesss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] his_spiffynesss
What there to compare?

Date: 2012-09-14 10:52 pm (UTC)
his_spiffynesss: (Default)
From: [personal profile] his_spiffynesss
I meant it in the sense of their being no comparison between Liefeld and Perez..

Date: 2012-09-14 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] lonewolf23k
Wow. Epic Fail on Liefeld's part. Referencing Wolfman's artwork, and he STILL screws up on basic anatomy and posture.

Date: 2012-09-15 10:33 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I think you mean Perez artwork. :) It's Wolfman's words he's pinching.

Date: 2012-09-14 11:25 pm (UTC)
rdfox: Alfred Pennyworth facepalming at something horribly stupid (facepalm)
From: [personal profile] rdfox
Wooooooooow. He even lifted Addie's dialogue in the training panels *verbatim* from the original.

Where's Foxhack when you need him?

Date: 2012-09-15 12:27 am (UTC)
shadwing: Psi SW2 Game Card (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadwing
Even the COLORING and costume designs are lifted...

Seriously LOOK at Addie's wedding gown and veil, and the fight scene, with her in the pink dress. I'm gonna give the colorist a pass since those choices might have been noted when they got the file but STILL.

First they remove the whole Wolfman Perez TT run from continuity but then they lift this wholesale?

Nice DC/Liefield...NICE...not

Date: 2012-09-15 11:28 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Where's Foxhack when you need him?

If he saw this, chances are he's curled up in the foetal position, sobbing.

Date: 2012-09-14 11:27 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Posture's pretty good here.

The hands aren't great, but anatomy is fine.

It's the overall style that just makes this look bland and boring.

Plus he can't draw weapons... in all his years.

I don't think he practices.

Date: 2012-09-15 07:55 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Thing is, he didn't create the posture, or the anatomy, he basically lifted right off Perez, the Liefeld-ishness of the layout is minimal, and yet STILL he somehow manages to make it suck donkey balls.

When my two year old niece copies a picture she's seen in a book, she doesn't necessarily make a very good job of it, but she's two, what's Liefeld's excuse?

Date: 2012-09-15 08:09 am (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Oh yeah, i agree with that, this was more of a reply to the above post, he does it 'right' but doesn't make it 'great', it's silly, I think him and Greg Land get work because they're fast.

Date: 2012-09-15 02:47 pm (UTC)
shadwing: Psi SW2 Game Card (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadwing
Prety much my theory too, they turn in a full issue like clockwork every month and most likely work for good but not huge rates and bonus have a 'name' that will pull in fans.

Date: 2012-09-15 12:24 am (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
I'd have said homage, then I saw the rest. He practically copied the whole book.
I don't know...

Date: 2012-09-15 06:14 am (UTC)
benuben: (Default)
From: [personal profile] benuben
Well, Liefeld does have a weird way of showing his respect towards other creators.... http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/15723/326632-6198-kirby.jpg

Date: 2012-09-15 10:34 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Being a little weird myself, I don't mind weird, but that's just.... baffling.

Date: 2012-09-15 12:40 am (UTC)
crabby_lioness: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crabby_lioness
Damn. Even out and out TRACING Perez, he still can't draw worth shit.

That takes some doing.

Date: 2012-09-15 02:10 am (UTC)
omnipotent: (Shosanna at Nazi Night)
From: [personal profile] omnipotent
I'm still trying to figure out how he still gets work.

That's Just Mean (following)

Date: 2012-09-15 04:25 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
My money's on really, really good blowjob technique.

Date: 2012-09-15 04:29 am (UTC)
jlroberson: (Default)
From: [personal profile] jlroberson
This comparison is my favorite. In Liefeld's she looks like he farted.

Date: 2012-09-15 07:20 am (UTC)
kusonaga: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kusonaga
I find it more disturbing that she's missing a leg.

Date: 2012-09-15 07:56 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Well, there was a war on, she may have miscounted...

Date: 2012-09-15 02:14 pm (UTC)
omnipotent: (America and Britain)
From: [personal profile] omnipotent
I was hoping that maybe the leg was bent behind her other leg and therefore we can't see it. Although surely we should at least be able to discern the second knee, or another foot or something. Idk.

Date: 2012-09-17 08:02 am (UTC)
eyz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eyz
Everyone's always angry and pissed off in EXTREEEEM-O-VISION!!!

Date: 2012-09-15 07:58 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
And here was me thinking that his New Teen Titans/X-Force Perez "homage" was about as bad as he got, this is just... horrible!

Date: 2012-09-15 10:01 am (UTC)
magus_69: (pic#370600)
From: [personal profile] magus_69
Huh. I hadn't realized just how much Perez's Slade and Joey resembled each other.

Also, Adeline is a badass. That is all.

Date: 2012-09-16 02:34 am (UTC)
star_of_airdrie: (911salute)
From: [personal profile] star_of_airdrie
and copies the background and clothing too?

Of course he made angry bridesmaids. That's a twist.

Date: 2012-09-20 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] philippos42
I don't think this is the same as his other swipes that he's been called out on for 20 years. This is adapting an old story by taking its layouts and refinishing it. Swiping to itself.

Unfortunately, the new finishes are pretty bad,

That said, a nod to Pérez would be nice, considering how much he used. Was there such a note in the comic?

Date: 2012-09-20 11:05 am (UTC)
kraesil: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kraesil
O.o...

O.o...

*Gives up trying to figure out what Liefeld was thinking*

I'll just focus trying to keep my eyebrows down.

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