Avengers vs X-Men #11 Ending
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Date: 2012-09-24 05:46 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-09-24 07:16 am (UTC)That's a somewhat cooler looking costume than the initial ... thing he had going on.
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Date: 2012-09-24 01:57 pm (UTC)It was basically Nu52 Nightwing but with a red thong on the outside. And a pretty cool Phoenix shaped visor.
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Date: 2012-09-24 07:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-24 08:29 am (UTC)Marvel seemed fairly determined to ignore that set of stories Pak laid down, because Emma fucking loathed the Phoenix at the end of Warsong and wouldn't have wanted anything to do with it. Pak was supposed to do a follow up to make it a trilogy, but wasn't allowed to do so.
As it is, I think there's still something being said about the Phoenix being split, and not just amongst the P5? Something about the Phoenix Five gaining the Phoenix's power, but not its conscience or something along those lines. I'm not sure. So I wouldn't be surprised if old!Jean descended from the White Hot Room, called Scott and everyone dumb fucks, and reset things and leaves because she's that disgusted with them all.
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Date: 2012-09-24 11:26 am (UTC)That only explains that though... not the rest of the mess.
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Date: 2012-09-24 12:43 pm (UTC)If this is how they actually end this event, I will forgive Marvel for everything and buy a bunch of their new books. This is clearly the best possible ending.
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Date: 2012-09-24 02:51 pm (UTC)SO much motto.
i have been saying the only way for this to end is:
White Phoenix Jean: REALLY? REALLY? I die for a little while and the world goes to shit!
Cap: You tell them Miss Grey!
Iron Man: Yeah!
White Phoenix Jean: Two words. Civil. War.
White Phoenix: And you. *looks to the Phoenix force* Why i call you, you COME. you don't just go hook up with the closest mutant with a pulse. While I am at it. Hope, Rachel, Nathan, you are all coming with me, Phoenix knows you'll be safer with me than with this lot. Also, Emma, you too, we may have had our issues, but i think you can agree life with me would be better than life here. Everyone ready? Wanda is getting our place ready, she's going to hex a few more intradimensional rooms for you guys. Scott I'd invite you but ever since that whole Schizm thing you've been kinda an ass... Oh and I'll be back. these five shards of Phoenix are some of the last... TRY NOT TO END THE WORLD until i get back.. mmkay? Phoenix, AWAY!
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Date: 2012-09-24 10:24 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-09-24 08:54 am (UTC)Typographic laziness is one of the supreme faults, design-wise, of the modern superhero comic book. Had it been me, I'd have had the word "Phoenix" arising as an extension of the flames emanating from Scott's body, drowning out his speech bubble to denote how the Phoenix has overwhelmed his consciousness and identity, or I'd have had him conjuring the word using the red light pouring from his eyes, demonstrating that he has mastered the elements of his personal universe and the world around him, but only in a destructive sense.
In fact, I'd have done anything other than lazily writing the word in an 'edgy' font. I mean, Christ. What is this, something by Ryan Sohmer?
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Date: 2012-09-24 09:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-24 09:24 am (UTC)Why don't we see stuff like that here? Are the multi-millions of Disney and Marvel combined only worth the talent that it takes to scroll through Photoshop elements for a typeface that 'pops' before calling it a day and strolling off to get their lunchtime bagel?
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Date: 2012-09-24 11:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-24 11:29 am (UTC)What they have here certainly isn't horrible, or bad.
Actually any of the things you'd have him do, would really confuse the fourth wall... is he telling everyone he's the Phoenix using his powers to create the words? (how nerdy), or would that panel simply be artistic value and not actually be him doing it (which kind of cuts up the story telling). I think this route, while not the best, was probably for the better.
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Date: 2012-09-24 09:04 am (UTC)I think Jean keeps dying just to get away from him, really. "I'm back! Is he dead ye--oh...shit."
"Jean...the bugs have something to say about our relationshi--"
"GET. AWAY."
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Date: 2012-09-24 09:25 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-09-24 10:23 am (UTC)(And yes, that is Claremont writing)
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Date: 2012-09-24 01:08 pm (UTC)Kinda nice to know that my original impulse, to ignore this mess completely, was justified.
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Date: 2012-09-24 04:40 pm (UTC)but i agree that allt his has to do with stark trying to destory an entity that is the embodiement of death and rebirth...
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Date: 2012-09-24 04:50 pm (UTC)Here, it's a bit different; It's not the Phoenix entity by itself, it's possessing Scott. And it isn't, I remember reading, all of the Phoenix - just it's power, and not it's conscience/mind/whatever. So the Phoenix was unbalanced, but this is a different set of circumstances entirely, and killing of Professor Xavier and blaming it on the others is basically the thing that kicked Scott off the cliff and made him Dark Phoenix.
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Date: 2012-09-24 10:20 pm (UTC)No such luck. It's still there. Look at the top of his hip (on your left and his right).
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