Even if there are too many Batman books? This ain't one of them.
I don't think Tomasi and Gleason were quite right for the Dick/Damian pairing, but they've really hit their stride here. Their DOTF tie-in has pretty much been the strongest bar none.
Previous rants about a certain other villain being killed when he arguably didn't need to be notwithstanding, it'd be pretty silly if I judged Alfred for what he did in his dreams. And lots of people in the DCU want Joker to die. After everything he's done, it's natural for them to feel that way.
What I don't understand, though, is why Alfred's smiling at the end. I mean, I've had dreams that I enjoyed, but then I've woken up and gone "Aw dammit, it was only a dream."
If I were Alfred, I think I'd probably be like "Damn, it was only a dream. He's still alive, I still have to worry about him coming back one of these days and, if history's any indication, he probably will."
I'm wondering why he's smiling about killing the Joker after the clown seemingly kills/severely injures the rest of the Bat family. You'd think he'd dream of offing Joker before any of his kids got messed up like that.
Actually, you might've just answered my question and I might be able to answer yours. Here's an interpretation I just came up with:
In the dream, he's enraged because of what he's seem Joker do to people he cares about. If it were real life, killing the Joker would be kind of a hollow victory because the damage would've already been done.
After he wakes up, he's thinking "It was only a dream. The Joker's stll alive...but so are Bruce, and Dick, and Tim, and everybody else. Thank god." And he smiles.
This. This a thousand times over. I'm bored to tears with modern god mode Joker, and seeing the always awesome get to Alfred blow his head off, even just in a dream sequence, is immensely cathartic. I also greatly enjoy the idea of the Joker being killed by someone other than Batman, it's just so much more poetic, to have Joker finally lose in the end.
Alfred shares this dream with just about every member of the Gotham City PD, the only difference being that they are regularly in a position to do it, and don't.
Anyone here reminded of that episode of the 60s Adam West show where Alfred similarly owns the Joker? Except without resorting to The Weapon of the Enemy?
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Date: 2013-02-14 09:33 am (UTC)I don't think Tomasi and Gleason were quite right for the Dick/Damian pairing, but they've really hit their stride here. Their DOTF tie-in has pretty much been the strongest bar none.
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Date: 2013-02-14 11:39 am (UTC)What I don't understand, though, is why Alfred's smiling at the end. I mean, I've had dreams that I enjoyed, but then I've woken up and gone "Aw dammit, it was only a dream."
If I were Alfred, I think I'd probably be like "Damn, it was only a dream. He's still alive, I still have to worry about him coming back one of these days and, if history's any indication, he probably will."
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Date: 2013-02-14 08:20 pm (UTC)Poor, poor Jason.
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Date: 2013-02-14 01:27 pm (UTC)In the dream, he's enraged because of what he's seem Joker do to people he cares about. If it were real life, killing the Joker would be kind of a hollow victory because the damage would've already been done.
After he wakes up, he's thinking "It was only a dream. The Joker's stll alive...but so are Bruce, and Dick, and Tim, and everybody else. Thank god." And he smiles.
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Date: 2013-02-14 06:27 pm (UTC)And I squee.
Also: Our Alfred has a shotgun, your argument is invalid.
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Date: 2013-02-15 02:01 am (UTC)I'm bored to tears with modern god mode Joker, and seeing the always awesome get to Alfred blow his head off, even just in a dream sequence, is immensely cathartic.
I also greatly enjoy the idea of the Joker being killed by someone other than Batman, it's just so much more poetic, to have Joker finally lose in the end.
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Date: 2013-02-15 09:46 am (UTC)A good juxtaposition for this:
Date: 2013-02-15 01:53 pm (UTC)Re: A good juxtaposition for this:
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