AKa, how to do Diana in an Elseworld PROPERLY.
In the recently released prequel to DC's Injustice computer game, which has Superman deciding to take over the world following his suffering a series of tragic loses at the hands of the Joker, a lot of people were surprised to find Wonder Woman joining up with him usually quickly. Her being so supportive of a friend appearing to go slowly crazy is said by some people to be too out of character, even for an alternate universe storyline. But are there storylines where Diana and Clark get up to morally grey things, but rather than descending into supervillainy, they actually realise the way they're going and attempt to fix things?
The idea of Wonder Woman falling into step behind Superman's attempt to take over the world is sadly something that's appeared multiple times in the past. In Red Son, Kingdom Come and the Dark Knight Returns/ASBARTB-verses, it all happens oddly often for a character that's meant to be spreading a message of peace and freedom.
An Elseworld variation that sticks out in my mind would be in Darwyn Cooke's New Frontier, which has Diana taking extreme measures to fufill what she sees as American values, but stands on her own terms about it. Even if her rigid ideology in the good parts of the American Dream, which she picked up while fightin' the Nazis, doesn't really gel with the establishment of the 1950s and 60s.
To begin with, here is a prequel from the original story in which Superman and Wonder Woman are informally ordered to capture this pesky Batman character. Essentially what lead to this was, that as Superman and Wonder Woman had worked directly with the US government since the 1940s, they agreed to sign up with them when the McCarthy Hearings rolled around because, really, it's the government, right? Surely they have their hearts in the right place?
Wonder Woman refuses to arrest "a good and honourable man in the name of freedom and liberty", and Superman, not sure himself, goes to ask the President to make sure he's certain that he wants him to do this...


Shortly afterwards, an associate of Batman's hears about how the US government is coming for him, so she decides to give him a bit of an edge...

A little later Superman manages to track down Batman, and unfortunately for him Batman had time to prepare. This leads to Batman using an array of gadgets and semi-nonlethal (for humans) weaponry on Superman, which enrages Clark almost to snapping point... if it wasn't for the appearance of a sudden Diana ex machina.



And so, our Trio of heroes come up with a plan, a RUSE if you will. Batman and Superman will fake a convincing enough public fight to make the US government back off (especially when they reveal Batman has Kryptonite, so if he can take down Superman what can they do to stop him?). Then while Batman works to change the system from the outside, Clark and Diana will try to reform it from the inside out.


Back with the main story and some years later, the success of the public heroes to conform the US government to their way of thinking doesn't appear to be working. While in South East Asian doing "aid work" for the refugees of the war torn area, Diana seemingly disappears into the jungle, and Superman is sent to fetch her back...








Unfortunately, it seems that Diana's WW2 era belief in the American Dream has become a touch embarassing for the US government, particularly when the war in South East Asia isn't a cut and dry thing like it was in the last war they sent Diana to get involved in (World War Two).



And so Eisenhower, who Diana has come to respect and trust due to them working together in WW2... effectively has her exiled back to Themyscira out of embarassment.
She does eventually come back, in a pretty spectacular fashion, and she and Clark decide that working with a government with its own agendas won't make the world a better place, so they decide to do change the world by... leading by example, teaching younger people their values and working for greater diplomatic ties between nations to get world peace.
New Frontier's Diana is my favourite out of the Elseworld versions of the character, if only because there is an actual character arc there which isn't determined by her becoming Superman's second-in-command/mother to his spawn. She enters the world in a time when the world is engaged in a white that from the outset was a very black and white affair, which colours her opinion of both Man's World and the country she adopts as her second home.
BUT as things become more complicated with the rise of the Cold War, she comes to decide that just because they're the government and say that they're right DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE, and restructures her mission to spread peace accordingly. It isn't a case of siding against people who want to slave/exterminate the world now, it's a case of opposing views and finding a sense of balance in order to fufill her mission of peace.
I should probably point out though that it's implied (more outright stated in the movie adaptation) that Superman didn't sign up entirely out of a sense of comradeship and patriotism, like Diana did, or was just a tool of US foreign policy (like in... most Frank Miller uses of the character). Rather, he signed up because he thought that he had to set an example, and because he can't afford for people to be affair of him if he decided to outright refuse. Superman is here to help... and if people were trying to stop him because he wasn't overtly "a good guy", then helping people would be significantly hindered by it.
In the recently released prequel to DC's Injustice computer game, which has Superman deciding to take over the world following his suffering a series of tragic loses at the hands of the Joker, a lot of people were surprised to find Wonder Woman joining up with him usually quickly. Her being so supportive of a friend appearing to go slowly crazy is said by some people to be too out of character, even for an alternate universe storyline. But are there storylines where Diana and Clark get up to morally grey things, but rather than descending into supervillainy, they actually realise the way they're going and attempt to fix things?
The idea of Wonder Woman falling into step behind Superman's attempt to take over the world is sadly something that's appeared multiple times in the past. In Red Son, Kingdom Come and the Dark Knight Returns/ASBARTB-verses, it all happens oddly often for a character that's meant to be spreading a message of peace and freedom.
An Elseworld variation that sticks out in my mind would be in Darwyn Cooke's New Frontier, which has Diana taking extreme measures to fufill what she sees as American values, but stands on her own terms about it. Even if her rigid ideology in the good parts of the American Dream, which she picked up while fightin' the Nazis, doesn't really gel with the establishment of the 1950s and 60s.
To begin with, here is a prequel from the original story in which Superman and Wonder Woman are informally ordered to capture this pesky Batman character. Essentially what lead to this was, that as Superman and Wonder Woman had worked directly with the US government since the 1940s, they agreed to sign up with them when the McCarthy Hearings rolled around because, really, it's the government, right? Surely they have their hearts in the right place?
Wonder Woman refuses to arrest "a good and honourable man in the name of freedom and liberty", and Superman, not sure himself, goes to ask the President to make sure he's certain that he wants him to do this...


Shortly afterwards, an associate of Batman's hears about how the US government is coming for him, so she decides to give him a bit of an edge...

A little later Superman manages to track down Batman, and unfortunately for him Batman had time to prepare. This leads to Batman using an array of gadgets and semi-nonlethal (for humans) weaponry on Superman, which enrages Clark almost to snapping point... if it wasn't for the appearance of a sudden Diana ex machina.



And so, our Trio of heroes come up with a plan, a RUSE if you will. Batman and Superman will fake a convincing enough public fight to make the US government back off (especially when they reveal Batman has Kryptonite, so if he can take down Superman what can they do to stop him?). Then while Batman works to change the system from the outside, Clark and Diana will try to reform it from the inside out.


Back with the main story and some years later, the success of the public heroes to conform the US government to their way of thinking doesn't appear to be working. While in South East Asian doing "aid work" for the refugees of the war torn area, Diana seemingly disappears into the jungle, and Superman is sent to fetch her back...








Unfortunately, it seems that Diana's WW2 era belief in the American Dream has become a touch embarassing for the US government, particularly when the war in South East Asia isn't a cut and dry thing like it was in the last war they sent Diana to get involved in (World War Two).



And so Eisenhower, who Diana has come to respect and trust due to them working together in WW2... effectively has her exiled back to Themyscira out of embarassment.
She does eventually come back, in a pretty spectacular fashion, and she and Clark decide that working with a government with its own agendas won't make the world a better place, so they decide to do change the world by... leading by example, teaching younger people their values and working for greater diplomatic ties between nations to get world peace.
New Frontier's Diana is my favourite out of the Elseworld versions of the character, if only because there is an actual character arc there which isn't determined by her becoming Superman's second-in-command/mother to his spawn. She enters the world in a time when the world is engaged in a white that from the outset was a very black and white affair, which colours her opinion of both Man's World and the country she adopts as her second home.
BUT as things become more complicated with the rise of the Cold War, she comes to decide that just because they're the government and say that they're right DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE, and restructures her mission to spread peace accordingly. It isn't a case of siding against people who want to slave/exterminate the world now, it's a case of opposing views and finding a sense of balance in order to fufill her mission of peace.
I should probably point out though that it's implied (more outright stated in the movie adaptation) that Superman didn't sign up entirely out of a sense of comradeship and patriotism, like Diana did, or was just a tool of US foreign policy (like in... most Frank Miller uses of the character). Rather, he signed up because he thought that he had to set an example, and because he can't afford for people to be affair of him if he decided to outright refuse. Superman is here to help... and if people were trying to stop him because he wasn't overtly "a good guy", then helping people would be significantly hindered by it.
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Date: 2013-04-04 12:24 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2013-04-04 03:06 am (UTC)http://www.amazon.com/DC-New-Frontier-Vol-1/dp/1401203507/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1365044743&sr=1-1&keywords=new+frontier
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Date: 2013-04-04 07:04 am (UTC)WW being demoted to Clark's girlfriend isn't just something that's come about because of the DCnU, but seems to be a reoccuring thing in alternate world stories (mostly because something unpleasant happens to Lois).
Stories such as,
Red Son
Distant Fires
Kingdom Come
Injustice
JLA: Act of God
And most of the time, MOST, the implication is that if Wonder Woman and Superman get together, it'll be a very bad thing. Seemingly because people in and out of universe seem to think that they can't be attracted to each other without having some kind of eugenic-based world conquesting dynasty in mind.
Which is another reason why I like the layered portrayals of Superman and Wonder Woman in this series so much. They're equals, and she is literally his best friend opposed to someone following Clark's lead the entire time.
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Date: 2013-04-04 04:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2014-12-11 11:09 pm (UTC)She's designed to be a deliberate contrast to the regular, proper version of Wonder Woman, as shown when the Diana from the "real" DCU shows up, and is as noble and compassionate as you'd expect the character to be. Injustice Diana even calls her weak for being like that, which implies that there was something "wrong" with the character in the first place.
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Date: 2013-04-04 12:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-04 08:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-04 12:14 pm (UTC)(Seriously though it is nice to see Wonder Woman given a decent elseworlds portrayal. The portrayal given to her in Injustice just makes me cringe)
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Date: 2013-04-04 02:26 pm (UTC)I love this series. I have the special edition of The New Frontier and it is my prized comics possession. Wonderful artwork, intriguing story, and great '50/early '60s ambience. :)
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Date: 2013-04-04 08:11 pm (UTC)The one exception: Big Barda.
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Date: 2013-04-04 05:51 pm (UTC)Also, the art is really, really, pretty and Wonder Woman is taller than Superman. Therfore it is awesome.
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Date: 2013-04-04 06:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-04 08:32 pm (UTC)Beyond Superman, Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen are great in this book. Lois gets a few really awesome moments, like when she's on hand for a battle between the US Navy and the book's Big Bad. Jimmy also has this great moment with Wonder Woman:
"If you work with a gal like Miss Lane long enough, you stop thinking about all the ways there are to die. It'll drive you crazy. But here I am. This thing is going to eat me alive, and all I can think about is getting film into the back of my 35. I mean, if I can at least catch it on film...
"I swing my rig up and pull focus, expecting to be staring death in the face. Instead a masterpiece of glorious life fills my viewfinder. In that shutter's click, I see it all. The power...the beauty...the wonder.
"I'll always love her for that."
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Date: 2013-04-04 10:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-04 08:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-04 10:10 pm (UTC)So not in a "Bwhaha! Let's conquer the world!" Frank Miller way. :)
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Date: 2013-04-04 06:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-04-04 10:56 pm (UTC)With Wonder Woman, her portrayal in Injustice as a malicious whisperer in superman's ear, influencing him to do things he would not otherwise do and helping him slip to evil, not only pointlessly insults the character but harkens back to one of the oldest misogynist stereotypes, that of women being evil "seducers" of men as well as generally being manipulative and soulless beings, which is what Wondy in Injustice reeks of.
At least thats my interpretation of it. Could be im just overanalysing things
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Date: 2013-04-07 12:48 am (UTC)Elseworldversions of the characterFTFMe.
(Seriously.)