Eh - I think the Pandora opening the box and causing everyone's troubles works better when she's actually told NOT to open the box.
It seems sort of odd that even like all seeing omniscent councils would punish her so severely for opening this thing she'd never heard of.
Also where did she get the fabric for that long flowy cloak when even her sick brother's blanket is made up of patches. Seems like that cloak could have been used to make clothes that weren't falling off or other uses.
It definitely works better when Pandora actually does something she's not supposed to.
Here she doesn't even actually open the skull/box! She literally just looks at it and apparently that's enough to condemn her to an eternity of suffering.
Maybe her real sin wasn't in fact picking up a stupid glowy skull box but instead being a greedy hoarder of fancy clothes while everyone else is wearing furs and rags.
Well, we don't know what rank she held in the village, plius this being about 8000 BC wouldn't it predate most instances of the "society where purple is for royalty"?
Sorry, what I meant was that purple was reserved only for royalty because purple dye was very hard to make and ridiculously expensive because it could only be made from a certain kind of sea snail. There's no way that such a primitave tribe would bother with something that labor-intensive just for dye.
I actually knew that (Thank you Primary School history lessons! :) ) but they might have another means of doing so... lots of blackcurrants/blueberries perhaps, or maybe this is why the Macedonian Violet Sheep became extinct?
Pandora could hardly do that, though. She was the weird stuff of gods. She was created alongside the box as a gift. She was literally created to open it.
Guess the old saying about Greeks bearing gifts goes only doubly so for Greek gods.
I keep expecting/hoping that this ends with Pandora opening the box again and letting hope out into the DCU. Then in an ideal world, DC would stop making so many of their books boring and grimdark.
I know this is a really silly gripe, but I can't get over the fact that they're all wearing furs and then suddenly she has this beautifully dyed (purple no less) cape that's apparently made out of fabric. I'm guessing this is to tie it in to her existing outfit or something, but I was just very confused why the story jumped forward several thousand years and humans had invented textiles...
I must have missed the guns (not in these scans?), but at least her later guns are from a legitimate jump forward in time! That said, I'm really glad I'm not the only one griping about her purple cloak.
I've heard it called the "giant lizard" phenomenon: I can accept without question that a lizard has become gigantic and is now rampaging through a major city, but if it's scales look wrong -- sorry! suspension of disbelief broken!
I actually rather enjoyed this. That Shazam Council are typical gods who are a bunch of overreacting dicks so feel little sympathy for them. Been most interested in Pandora's journey and do like that she's tied to the Seven Sins.
Long ago, in a time when cavewoman were all attractive by modern standards and not caked in filth, there lived a woman who hoarded all of her tribe's purple cloth for herself while the rest wore furs!
I agree with the others, the Pandora story only really works when she is told not to open the box (or in this case, three-eyed skull). I recall that Pandora was made to be a trap anyway, a punishment to mankind. She was made with all these wonderful gifts, but also with curiosity, just so she would open the box.
And even when Pandora wasn't specifically made to be a trap, it still works better for her to know it's bad but do it anyway. Here, she IS totally innocent. She just saw something weird and picked it up.
This Shazam Council is not just "wrong" or had "poor judgement", this type of error makes them downright idiots. Ironically, for a Shazam Council, none of them appear to have the wisdom of Solomon to me. And what's worse is that it takes them thousands of years to realize they messed up.
My question is WHY was that box just sitting there in the woods. I mean it has the spirits of the seven deadly sins, the worst, most soul twisting sins around. Did the council know about it? Why didn't they get it for safekeeping? Did someone lose it? Why were "they" not punished?
And the DCnU isn't totally bad per say. There's a lot I really don't like, but at the same time there were ideas that were potentially interesting, but badly done. The Guardian's going mad? Good idea. The ending to the First Lantern thing? Not so good. Sinestro being a GL? Interesting. Destroying his home? Bad. And where was NATU?
Alternate universe Helena Wayne coming to Earth 1 with her best friend Powergirl? That's interesting to me. It would have been also interesting to see her react and interact with Batman, or how Batman would react to technically having a daughter.
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Date: 2013-07-09 09:32 pm (UTC)It seems sort of odd that even like all seeing omniscent councils would punish her so severely for opening this thing she'd never heard of.
Also where did she get the fabric for that long flowy cloak when even her sick brother's blanket is made up of patches. Seems like that cloak could have been used to make clothes that weren't falling off or other uses.
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Date: 2013-07-09 09:50 pm (UTC)Here she doesn't even actually open the skull/box! She literally just looks at it and apparently that's enough to condemn her to an eternity of suffering.
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Date: 2013-07-10 02:38 pm (UTC)eh it's comics. i'd buy that lol
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Date: 2013-07-10 04:30 pm (UTC)Guess the old saying about Greeks bearing gifts goes only doubly so for Greek gods.
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Date: 2013-07-09 09:45 pm (UTC)I don't know that, but I do know that the plastic tips at the end of shoelaces are called 'aglets'.
Their true purpose is sinister.
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Date: 2013-07-10 05:31 am (UTC)G
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Date: 2013-07-09 09:44 pm (UTC)...and with the next issue of each comic, DCnu is no more, and DCold returns.
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Date: 2013-07-09 11:52 pm (UTC)Seriously, every story I've enjoyed in the DCnU could have just as easily been told preboot.
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Date: 2013-07-11 12:31 am (UTC)Don't forget that there was serious issues with DCold.
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Date: 2013-07-10 03:55 pm (UTC)You're right! Darn that feminine
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Date: 2013-07-10 04:48 pm (UTC)I've heard it called the "giant lizard" phenomenon: I can accept without question that a lizard has become gigantic and is now rampaging through a major city, but if it's scales look wrong -- sorry! suspension of disbelief broken!
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Date: 2013-07-10 06:16 am (UTC)The message is, 'Stick to your shopping list.'
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Date: 2013-07-10 04:54 pm (UTC)Sounds about in line with a traditional fairy tale's scope and ramifications actually!
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Date: 2013-07-10 02:35 pm (UTC)also NOW they come say they are sorry????
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Date: 2013-07-10 10:30 pm (UTC)And even when Pandora wasn't specifically made to be a trap, it still works better for her to know it's bad but do it anyway. Here, she IS totally innocent. She just saw something weird and picked it up.
This Shazam Council is not just "wrong" or had "poor judgement", this type of error makes them downright idiots. Ironically, for a Shazam Council, none of them appear to have the wisdom of Solomon to me. And what's worse is that it takes them thousands of years to realize they messed up.
My question is WHY was that box just sitting there in the woods. I mean it has the spirits of the seven deadly sins, the worst, most soul twisting sins around. Did the council know about it? Why didn't they get it for safekeeping? Did someone lose it? Why were "they" not punished?
And the DCnU isn't totally bad per say. There's a lot I really don't like, but at the same time there were ideas that were potentially interesting, but badly done. The Guardian's going mad? Good idea. The ending to the First Lantern thing? Not so good. Sinestro being a GL? Interesting. Destroying his home? Bad. And where was NATU?
Alternate universe Helena Wayne coming to Earth 1 with her best friend Powergirl? That's interesting to me. It would have been also interesting to see her react and interact with Batman, or how Batman would react to technically having a daughter.
It's just so filled with stupid bits and...waste.