Date: 2013-09-12 08:14 pm (UTC)
kuronotenshi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kuronotenshi
I'm not getting my hopes up.

Like at all. This news came the same day they cancelled Scarlet Spider, and they are using that ".#" numbering. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth that they are giving a few issues, then walking away. Just enough to keep Peter fans from truly revolting at the fact we lost Agent Venom and Kaine, and are left with 'Otto' stories.

I hope it happens, but I have the feeling it's going to be some 'alternate reality' or some such that won't have any bearing at all on what Marvel's doubled down as their 'Superior' stories.

At least Slott isn't working on any of the 5 Peter stories in those.

Date: 2013-09-12 09:35 pm (UTC)
sindra: (CV1)
From: [personal profile] sindra
Scarlet Spider was cancelled??!!

WHY DO COMIC EXECS HATE EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD IN THE COMIC WORLD??!!

Date: 2013-09-12 09:45 pm (UTC)
kuronotenshi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kuronotenshi
There wasn't an announcement. Just in the crop of solicits released today, Scarlet Spider #25 is listed as the "Devestating Last Issue." Stating Kaine tried to be a Hero and failed, yadda yadda Exec decision bullocks.

Also as a blow to fans of Flash Thompson, the Solicit for Inferior Spider-Man #23 shows Venom leaving Flash, and #24 shows the new Inferior Venom as a enemy to ISM a month after his title is cancelled.

Go Marvel!

Date: 2013-09-12 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
To be fair, it is possible that they might relaunch Kaine's book under the "All-New Marvel Now" thing.

Date: 2013-09-12 11:59 pm (UTC)
chrisdv: (Default)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
With the rumours about the Ultimate Universe ending in Cataclysm & Miles jumping universes, I wouldn't be surprised if Kaine's book was being cancelled so they could relaunch with Miles as the new Scarlet Spider instead.

Date: 2013-09-13 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] darkknightjrk
...Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem with that at all. I know Kaine has his fans and the book looked interesting enough, but I like Miles a LOT more as a character.

Date: 2013-09-13 04:14 am (UTC)
seisachtheia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] seisachtheia
Eh, there's no reason it has to be mutually exclusive. I love miles, but the problem I have with the idea of him moving into the 616 is that I also adore the supporting cast of USM and it makes me sad to think of Miles as the sole survivor.

Date: 2013-09-13 06:04 am (UTC)
chrisdv: (Default)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
Especially since I'll be blaming Miles if the Ultimate Universe does end.

"Hey, the Ultimate Universe lasted 10 years without Miles. Two years with him, they cancel the line & have Galactus kill everyone. Just saying."

Yeah. That'll be me.

On a less Miles-hating note,the whole "Time is broken" thing Marvel are running with seems like an easy way to grab a few characters & have them jump over.

Date: 2013-09-13 09:01 pm (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
I think that even if his supporting cast came with him, the character's narrative would likely become all about him being from another universe and how he adjusts to that. Not that it couldn't be done well, but it's not a really what I'd want for the character.

My hope is that if all the other Ultimate titles get canned USM continues and just gets to running the rest of the universe in the periphery of Miles' story.
Edited Date: 2013-09-13 09:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-13 08:10 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
Given the number of minis they're doing for Cataclysm - some hinting that Gah Lak Tus is coming back in addition to 616 Galactus arriving, I think it's basically going to be a massive bait and switch to just let them relaunch books again and reorganise talent, because whilst I'd argue that Ultimate Spider-Man is great and Ultimate X-Men is very strong under Brian Wood, the Ultimates has taken a nose-dive.

So.. Yeah. I think it's leading to another relaunch. The Ultimate Universe is Bendis' baby, at this point, literally something like twelve years of his life.

Date: 2013-09-13 05:51 pm (UTC)
stubbleupdate: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stubbleupdate
Hinting that Gah Lak Tus is coming back?

Have you read Hunger?

Date: 2013-09-13 06:05 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
I didn't even know that was out yet.

Date: 2013-09-18 01:54 am (UTC)
ninjapeps: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ninjapeps
the Ultimate Universe could be ending? dammit, Ultimate Spider-Man has been the only Marvel title I've still been reading. I don't really care all that much to read about 616 Marvel anymore.

Date: 2013-09-13 12:22 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
God I hope so...and that it still takes place in Houston. We finally had our own hero dammit! O.O

Date: 2013-09-14 03:11 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
You'll still have whatever version of the Rangers is out there, won't you?

Date: 2013-09-13 09:56 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
That would be nice!

Date: 2013-09-13 09:55 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
To be fair, as awesome as it was... the sales were getting down to near 20k, which is fairly normal cancel levels.

*And* the writing team has enough time to give it an ending.

So, hey, think of it this way, we got two great years from it!

Date: 2013-09-18 03:22 pm (UTC)
blackruzsa: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blackruzsa
fucking fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fudge nutters fucker fuckens they cancelled Scarlet Spider.
THEY CANCELLED

they cancelled

i

no

Date: 2013-09-12 08:23 pm (UTC)
chrisdv: (Spider-Man)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
Hello, old friend.

Or as my nephew calls him: "Maaaaan."

Date: 2013-09-12 08:36 pm (UTC)
alexanderlucard: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alexanderlucard
Since Superior is still ongoing, my assumption is that these are set in the past before Otto took over his body.

Date: 2013-09-12 08:51 pm (UTC)
chrisdv: (Default)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
I think it's a bit random to have 5 .1 issues out if Inferior is still on-going, but from the solicits, I think ISM 25 or 26 will be the final issue, and Amazing 701 will be out before the end of January.

Hopefully without Slott, Ramos or Stegman involved.

The Marvel NOW! 2014 image does feature Peter in it after all, and apparently there's some movie coming out next year?

Date: 2013-09-12 08:59 pm (UTC)
kuronotenshi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kuronotenshi
....I should not have laughed as loudly as I did when I first read you say 'Inferior'.

I needed that. Thank you. <3

Date: 2013-09-12 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] captainbellman
I think Bleeding Cool said they were flashbacks, alas.

Date: 2013-09-12 10:59 pm (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Spidey & MJ)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Given how Marvel kept on promoting "One Moment in Time" with various wedding-related imagery I'm not holding my breath for Peter Parker to return this soon. If I had to guess it'd be around the time the new movie comes out but even then I wouldn't place any bets; the general consensus I get is that Marvel is more focused on trades nowadays and they'll probably end up doing a couple of miniseries for the bookstores.

Date: 2013-09-13 12:04 am (UTC)
chrisdv: (Spider-Man)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
But the wedding imagery directly tied into OMIT revealing what happened on the day Peter & Mary Jane were previously married.

Date: 2013-09-13 12:51 am (UTC)
cyberghostface: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Yes but it was pretty obvious they were baiting the fans.

Date: 2013-09-13 12:20 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
Either flashbacks or out of continuity. Then again there is that Spider-Man: Family Business graphic novel coming out next year. If it's in continuity, Peter better damn well come back because finding out about a long lost sister should not involve the guy who stole his damn body!

Date: 2013-09-13 08:33 pm (UTC)
tugrul: That Chest (Default)
From: [personal profile] tugrul
What? WHAT? @_@

Date: 2013-09-14 06:38 am (UTC)
tugrul: That Chest (Default)
From: [personal profile] tugrul
Okay, long lost sister is a silly story but I'm willing to give this a try. Might be false sister too. Sounds like the story is set with Peter in it, not Ock. Would be funny if after the OGN she re-appears in Inferior and be the one to find out Peter isn't Peter.

Date: 2013-09-13 10:20 pm (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Since you mentioned it, can we all talk about how weird Family Matters sounds? Because it sounds really weird. I like Mark Waid an all, but I don't think he's infallible, and I always got the impression that everyone had just quietly agreed that Peter's parents being spies never happened, since Peter Parker's origins being anything but mundane is super stupid.

Date: 2013-09-13 11:23 pm (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
Actually I never minded that Peter's parents were spies, hell, I was hoping that was the big secret in Amazing Spider-Man, that they were SHIELD agents and thus we got a connection to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Date: 2013-09-14 06:01 am (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
I think I would have preferred that in Amazing Spider-Man over the weird implications that Spidey's parents may have been tied into his powers somehow.

Really though, I've never liked the idea that Peter Parker's family is/was in any way notably or badass takes away from the everyman aspect. It feels more natural to me for them to just be regular people. His parents being spies just feels to me like a needless addition.
Edited Date: 2013-09-14 06:02 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-14 03:13 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Motto

Date: 2013-09-13 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] razsolo
That is some pretty art! I particularly like the upside-down one, really clever shot!

Re: Nope, still dead.

Date: 2013-09-13 08:48 pm (UTC)
silverhammerman: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Did they just implicitly say that Superior ain't your daddy's Spider-Man?

Because that is HILARIOUS.
Edited Date: 2013-09-13 08:54 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-09-13 03:24 am (UTC)
kirayoshi: Made of Rage (Default)
From: [personal profile] kirayoshi
I'm beginning to suspect that, starting in January, Marvel will be publishing a new bi-monthly Amazing Spider-Man title, playing opposite Slott's Superior Spider-Man book. By SSM #25, Otto will end up having the breakdown we've all been waiting for and, in the guise of Spider-Man, will abandon any pretense of being a hero and become a full-on tyrant, turning NYC into his own personal kingdom and taking out the Avengers, X-Men and any other heroes in his way. Meanwhile, Peter Parker will be in his own book, back among the living(I'll let the writers hash out how) and forced to live as a fugitive while Otto drags the names of both Spider-Man and Peter Parker into the mud. By the end of 2014, we'll have a big final battle between Peter and Otto, with Peter finally claiming the mantle of the One True Spider-Man, but forced to rebuild his reputation as a hero from the ground up as thanks to Otto the world thinks Spider-Man is the worst villain this side of Red Skull.

Date: 2013-09-13 06:07 am (UTC)
kuronotenshi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kuronotenshi
I believe that you are right.

However, I'm not so certain it'll happen by #25. Yes, Inferior Spider-Man is still selling because of minimum order requirements and counting 'all sales' to stores, not counting store sales to readers.

I suspect the Peter Parker 'stories' are nothing more than a 'playcate the masses' bid for people who are sick of all this inferior stuff. I mean, the other two 'spider' titles are cancelled by December for 'possible' reboots..assuming Slott doesn't want them for his Inferior titles like he's doing with Venom.

At this point? I'm honestly believing that all of this Inferior junk is salting the Earth to try and kill the success of ASM 2 and 3 or however many Fox is running, all so they can get the rights back at a lower price and bring Spidey/Peter into the Marvel cinematic-universe.

Then once they get the rights back, we'll have the epic throwdown like you've described.

Date: 2013-09-13 07:26 am (UTC)
flint_marko: (Superior in every way.)
From: [personal profile] flint_marko
Superior Spider-Man is still one of Marvel's more successful titles, and it's currently selling more than Amazing Spider-Man did.

Furthermore, the people who still read comics only make a fraction of the people who watch the superhero movies, so I don't think the comic sales would have any effect on how successful the movies are regardless.

Date: 2013-09-13 03:31 am (UTC)
silverzeo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] silverzeo
... like no one saw this one coming... In the past 3 years, how many heroes came back from being dead?

Date: 2013-09-13 01:16 pm (UTC)
chrisdv: (Default)
From: [personal profile] chrisdv
3? Dunno.

5? Captain America, Batman, Martian Manhunter, Barry Allen, Superboy, Kid Flash, Bucky, Human Torch, apparently Jean Grey... Those are just off the top of my head.

Date: 2013-09-21 06:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] halloweenjack
Remember when New Coke came out and everyone thought it was a big mistake and so they brought the original Coca-Cola back as "Classic" for a while and New Coke just sort of faded away?

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