Date: 2014-02-20 05:15 am (UTC)
freezer: (Clearly A Dick)
From: [personal profile] freezer
Is it just me, or does Nu52!Bats come off as closer to All-Star!Batman than Pre-Flashpoint?

Date: 2014-02-20 11:05 am (UTC)
espanolbot: (Default)
From: [personal profile] espanolbot
Snyder!Batman is pretty much the same as the Dini version from before the reboot...

Date: 2014-02-20 03:44 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Really? Dini Batman was capable of forming proper social attachments, and relaxing with his family. I've never got that from Snyder's Batman, especially after "Death of the Family".

Date: 2014-02-21 03:57 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
but that has more to do with mandate doesn't it? and all the events that have been going on? i mean this bruce hasn't really had TIME to relax.


Date: 2014-02-20 05:23 am (UTC)
blue_bolt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] blue_bolt
So nu52 Two-Face figured out who Batman was but didn't expose him?

I'm confused.

Re: ?

Date: 2014-02-20 05:59 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
He actively states how difficult it is for him to argue the case of keeping Batman/Bruce alive. Presumably that extends to not revealing his secret, too, suggesting that inside, he at least knows the work he, Gordon and Batman did was of some worth to Gotham.

Re: ?

Date: 2014-02-21 03:58 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
which i kinda like. i like the idea of this deeper internal moral conflict going on inside him. not JUST the flip of a coin.

Date: 2014-02-20 05:34 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Is this a shout out to DARK VICTORY? Bruce wonders if he told Harvery he was Batman he could have avoided Two-Face.

Date: 2014-02-20 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] drtechnobabel
I like that Two-Face knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman, especially since Dent is one of the few people who knows both Bruce and Batman, but why did the writer think it was a good idea to kill off one of Batman's most iconic villains? I mean, I know that I spent a bunch of time complaining about the Joker not being dead earlier this month, but the fact that the villain the Nu52 decided to actually kill (by suicide, no less) is also one of the few sympathetic villains that Batman has just seems to be reinforcing the whole 'grim-dark' vibe they seem to so desperately want. Then again, I'm probably just being an impossible-to-please fanboy, and I'm not buying this series anyway, so what I think doesn't exactly matter to DC.

I have to admit though, I can't wait to see how another writer inevitably brings Two-Face back to life within the next couple years. We all know it's going to happen, but shooting yourself in the head is kind of not something you can survive without massive brain damage. So whatever insane explanation they come up with, I know it's going to be mind-blowing.
Edited Date: 2014-02-20 05:37 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-02-20 06:22 am (UTC)
lbd_nytetrayn: Star Force Dragonzord Power! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Didn't someone post scans here not too long ago about there being multiple Two-Faces, once upon a time? Perhaps this is as throwback to that/them?

Date: 2014-02-20 09:03 am (UTC)
abates: Tetrap from Doctor Who story "Time and the Rani" (Default)
From: [personal profile] abates
Well, we don't see him actually shoot himself in the head, so maybe he just shot a bottle of ketchup that happened to be nearby.

Date: 2014-02-20 02:16 pm (UTC)
junipepper: (Default)
From: [personal profile] junipepper
They could always reboot the whole DCU -- oh, wait...

Date: 2014-03-01 10:42 pm (UTC)
fraxinus_amer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] fraxinus_amer
I support your ability to be an impossible-to-please fanboy

Date: 2014-02-20 06:06 am (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
On the one hand, I'm actually appreciative of a take on Harvey that isn't just Gotham's golden boy, and I somehow feel we learned more about Gilda in those couple of pages than we did at all in The Long Halloween, where she just ended up being a bait and switch, but.. That can't just be it for Harvey. I doubt DC would let Tomasi kill him off anyway, and I doubt that's actually what Tomasi has in mind, but.. If they actually had the stones to do it? I think I'd almost applaud it. But we can guarantee Harvey'll be back the second someone wants to use him.

It does conveniently remove him from play for Eternal, I suppose.

Date: 2014-02-20 12:31 pm (UTC)
rainspirit: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rainspirit
In an isolated story sense, it's nice to see this version of Harvey get a final release from his tortured life. Powerfully done.

But yeah, comics continuity is still gonna be fucked always.

Date: 2014-02-20 08:06 am (UTC)
big_daddy_d: (Default)
From: [personal profile] big_daddy_d
Well. That happened.

Date: 2014-02-20 12:53 pm (UTC)
nyadnar17: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
How said is it that as a huge Two-Face fan I am just happy he is being presented as having a duality here?

Two-Face is such a good villain, with such a simple concept. After decades of good stories why do so many writers struggle with writing him well?

Date: 2014-02-20 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] michaelhealy
I have a horrible feeling this is set up for the bullet not to kill him but disfigure the other side of his face, making him all evil, all the time.

Date: 2014-02-20 01:58 pm (UTC)
evilsneak: (Default)
From: [personal profile] evilsneak
At the very least the bullet will do some brain damage that will wipe the Batman/Bruce Wayne secret identity from his memory.

Date: 2014-02-20 06:39 pm (UTC)
zechs80: (Mayuri)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
Or kill the good side or bad side of his face setting up ONE-FACE.

Date: 2014-02-20 07:53 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
We already had that joke back when The Dark Knight was doing the 'LOL EVERYONE'S ON VENOM' story. And it sucked then.

Date: 2014-02-20 06:59 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
I give it six months before another writer decides they need Two-Face for their story and brings him back without any explanation.

Date: 2014-02-21 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] xenitha
Heh. We all know that the New52 is all a really bad nightmare that Batman is having after exposure to one of Scarecrow's new poisons. He'll wake up screaming one of these Issues and realize that it's all okay. None of the horribleness ever happened.

Date: 2014-02-21 02:56 am (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
This just seals it. I'm increasingly start to think the new "52" version of the DCU is not long for this world despite what Didio/Lee have been saying. It is too unnecessarily dark and grim and too many characters have been changed or outright damaged or dropped entirely. They probably didn't intend it but the way things have been getting WORSE in the DCnU I'm thinking they are already looking forward to another partial reboot courtesy of Pandora or another deus ex machina.

Date: 2014-02-21 03:12 pm (UTC)
obsidianwolf: 3 of 3 Icons I never change (Default)
From: [personal profile] obsidianwolf
Isn't the next event some kind of time skip? They might be hoping a hop forward will allow them to change things without folks calling them on it since they can claim any differences in characterization are from the five year gap.

Date: 2014-02-21 06:26 pm (UTC)
mrstatham: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mrstatham
The next weekly series for the DCU as a whole is Future's End, which is five years ahead, but relegated to that series plus presumed tie-ins. The Batman family of titles jump ahead six months when Eternal starts, placing it in the wake of Forever Evil.


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