Avengers World #4

[superboyprime]

"I thought that Warren Ellis had a really elegant device that he came up with in 'New Universal,' which fit in perfectly into this bigger device that I had made. Plus, I've always liked those characters, especially the Starbrand. So I took the opportunity to use them." - Jonathan Hickman

Comments

[bewareofgeek]

""I thought that Warren Ellis had a really elegant device that he came up with in 'New Universal,' which fit in perfectly into this bigger device that I had made."

And right there is why I went from being a Hickman fan to being annoyed by his work. He doesn't tell stories, he makes "devices". That image keeps showing up in his stuff.

As for these scans, when did Strange leave the team? And why did they LET him?

(And let's not go into the body-shaming Hickman put Sebastian through...)

[tugrul]

Dr. Strange is willingly corrupted now in exchange for power. Guess he wasn't powerful enough as the sorcerer supreme.

Then again seeing this is set before the New Avengers' most recent incursion event in which the Illuminati find Strange is dealing in dark magics, there's no way they could've known that. And Steve would be time jumping.

Writer also forgets Wanda Maximoff.

[icon_uk]

Despite her codename, I've never been that certain that Wanda has much magical skill or power, she used the rituals and routines of magic to guide her probability powers, but that's not actually magic.

When Kurt Busiek added in the Chthonic "chaos grenades" notion to her powers I think she did a bit more magical type stuff, but since Disassembled, I thought she was back to probability powers.

[obsidianwolf]

It tends to waffle between Chaos magic, Probability and good old mutant reality warping. There's also stuff like the life entity thing from Children's crusade so basically Wanda's powers make no sense and have pretty much become whatever a writer needs them to be.

[shadowpsykie]

i always thought that her powers were a combination of Mutant and magical? like, she has her probabilitie powers, but those powers also allow her to use magic. (she was at one time conscidered for Sorcerer Supreme...)

but i think it's like obsidianwolf said. She is basically a swiss army magical mutant.

[halloweenjack]

"Here is this mad idea I've had. Isn't it mad? How dare you not be impressed."

--over 50% of everything Ellis has written, and maybe over 90% for Hickman.

[bewareofgeek]

Have an Internet, on me.

[shadowpsykie]

(And let's not go into the body-shaming Hickman put Sebastian through...)

...? what?

Wait... Sebastian Druid... was he one of Fury's Catapillars?

I thought his powers WEREN'T magical in nature? or by virtue of being Dr Druid's son was he able to learn?

Also... they slimmed him down.... i mean he wasn't even THAT big before... but at least his body type was different....

[bewareofgeek]

Hickman did that. He devoted an entire issue to having John Garrett put Sebastian through boot camp because, apparently, you can't be a powerful mage unless you are physically fit.

(Apparently, nobody told Mojo).

[randyripoff]

So, any incredibly powerful hero in the 616 universe is going to have mental issues now?

Okay, there are a few that aren't, but this seems way too Sentry for me.

[tugrul]

He's not having mental issues though. Just being haunted by magic right now.

[filthysize]

This might be the best looking Caselli art I've seen. I think it's the coloring?

[doctor_spanky]

Caselli is just getting better imo. It seems like he's drawing less cartoony proportions but still drawing characters in exaggerated comic booky poses. I think his stuff looks really good

[starwolf_oakley]

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/4284614.html

Now, looking at some of the Starbrand origin, it looks like Kevin just "went off" and over 3000 people died. Like, he did it, not knowing what he did or acting out of any intention or malice.

[icon_uk]

Which I think is the point here, he IS innocent, but the spirits are malevolent and using his guilt (And you can have guilt without culpability)

[lbd_nytetrayn]

Wait, I thought Bruce was brain damaged? I guess this is before that?

[shadowpsykie]

bruce is currently NOT brain damaged in his series (SD is a few months behind)

[misanthr0pe]

So I have decided I'm just going to comment on every post I read. This is the post I chose to announce it on, because I had nothing else to say. I don't really get this whole thing.

[shadowpsykie]

Hickman is brilliant... but he borders on Madness.


its hard to get some of his stuff somtimes. it can seem exceedingly complex, too much so. but when he is good. he is so VERY VERY good.