Original Sin #8

[flint_marko]

We see a flashback to Uatu's final moments.







In the present, Nick Fury apparently sacrifices himself to kill Dr. Midas, who is absorbing Uatu's powers. However, after the heroes leave, we see a figure walking, who is chained to the moon.

Comments

[crinos]

So, Nick Fury (Who is actually an old man and has been using LMD's to give the illusion that he is ageless) killed Uatu and has now taken his place as the Watcher. Is that about right?

[flint_marko]

Pretty much, though the story is that the Infinity Formula in his blood was all used up and he started aging rapidly, not that he was always an old man using LMDs.

[silverzeo]

Can't wait to see how this will be retconed. Like maybe the Uatu was killed was from a distant future and he switched place to see something that beyond the universe's time or whatever and comes back....

[obsidianwolf]

I guess fury missed all those times Uatu narrated the What if titles* and told all sorts of secrets.

*It was shown on panel in Quasar he was actually standing there narrating them.

[drtechnobabel]

I wonder how Fury would react to the Watcher just standing there babbling on about a pig with the powers of Spider-Man, or everyone in the Fantastic Four becoming rock monsters, or superheroes settling the New World, or Captain America marrying a female Tony Stark, or any of the other crazy bullshit that the Watcher talked about in issues of 'What If?'

[icon_uk]

So Nick Fury even using souped up 1950/60 stc tech has managed to bug the home of the Watcher, as close to omniscient a character as can be imagined?

And simply watching Earth wore the ageless, eternally old Watcher to seek death?

And Nick Fury, manipulative bastard, is now taking the place of the Watcher...

This really does nothing for me, I can't even work up the energy to be irked by it...

[thereddouglas]

"And simply watching Earth wore the ageless, eternally old Watcher to seek death?

Yes, yes it did...

...which would make perfect sense if the Watcher said, "I've discovered yet ANOTHER dark secret hidden by Charles Xavier! It's like this universe is being controlled by some unimaginative writers! End my pain now!!", but no, it's played straight and in a deadly-serious manner.

Feh, the best thing to come out of this was floaty alien baby head and that Luke Cage's dad was Shaft. And that wasn't in the main story.

[cainofdreaming]

So Nick Fury even using souped up 1950/60 stc tech has managed to bug the home of the Watcher, as close to omniscient a character as can be imagined?

And then shot him. With a gun. Shot someone who just stood in the backlash of the explosion coming from the clash between IG wielding Thanos and the combined cosmic powers, without even getting his cloak ruffled.

Yes, this is plausible.

[night4345]

So Fury became Cable? Even stole his glowing eye.

[icon_uk]

My first thought too, "Oh look... Cable... where did HE come from?"

[zabilac]

This does nothing for me.

[draganoche]

Ok i get what happen (Fury replacing the watcher), I get why from a story telling perspective (this is Fury's ironic hell) but I don't see the reasoning. I mean why would the watcher even if he's fed up with life decided to condemn Fury (through cosmic power shenanigans) to be a life of being chained to the moon watching things happen but being unable to interfere. Did he just feel like being a dick? Because the worst Fury ever did to him personally was complain about the watcher saying he can't interfere when he well known for being the most interfering watcher of all time.

[skemono]

Is that some sort of super-gun? 'Cause I'd hope it would take more than a regular gun to take the Watcher out.

[donnblake]

Already wounded and apparently nigh-suicidal Uatu, mind. But yes, given Fury's access to supertech, I imagine it was a super-gun.

[cyberghostface]

At least Fury's not dead so the door's open for him to return when Marvel's tired of using New Coke Fury.

[drtechnobabel]

I wonder if the Unseen will show up in Avengers 3. If so, I really hope he's played by Stan Lee (if he's still alive by then, of course).

[halloweenjack]

"Face front, true believers! Who wants ta live forever, anyway? Not me, that's for damn sure, but now I got no choice! Pull up a moon rock and lissen up while I tell ya, What If... a two-fisted cigar-smokin' howlin' commando from Hell's Kitchen wore a toga with a high collar?"

[chortles81]

Is it supposed to be that Nick Fury was the one who stole the other eye?

Um...

[bewareofgeek]

Don't you think the OTHER Watchers might have something to say about this?

Re: Um...

[drtechnobabel]

They're probably just happy that someone's finally replaced that guy who kept breaking the Prime Directive over and over again.

[silverzeo]

So this kinda like how Hal Jordan became the Spectre for a short time?

[beyondthefringe]

On the bright side, there's very little that's been done here which can't be undone with a decent story.

Here, I'll give you one: The Nick Fury who spent 50 years being the Man on the Wall, who ultimately got old and killed the Watcher and blew up and became the Unseen?

SUPER-DUPER ADVANCED LMD. From the FUTURE. In fact, he was the unholy blend of an LMD, a Doombot, a Mad Thinker android, a discarded Ultron body, and a time-displaced version of the original Human Torch.

The REAL Nick Fury has been in suspended animation all this time. Or deep undercover. Doing, um, stuff. In places.And now he's back.

AND IT WAS A KANG/IMMORTUS PLOT ALL ALONG.

In fact...

NICK FURY IS KANG. And always has been.

There. All fixed.

Oh yeah, Uatu just wanted a vacation.

[jlroberson]

Who HASN'T been Kang? He's their Time Trapper.

[zachbeacon]

So many things bug me about this.

Nick Fury murdered a weakened Uatu? Wow, he went from flawed antihero to full-on villain FAST. And he gets rewarded for this misdeed with amazing cosmic powers? Argh.

Uatu lives with his wife (who bears their unborn child) but the Mighty Avengers tie-in is the only part of this crossover to acknowledge their existence. Someone broke into her home and killed a family member so why isn’t she part of this murder mystery investigation?

Comic book murder mysteries bug me in general. There’s WAY to much focus on the murder and not enough on the mystery so they mostly come off as snuff comics. The “mystery” part generally consists of either revealing that the killer is someone random with no motive or clues given (Identity Crisis) or its exactly the person we thought it was all along and the parts in the middle were just padding (Original Sin).

And most importantly…

What are the Watchers watching out for in the first place? This would have been the perfect place for one of Hickman’s big cosmic ideas and we got NOTHING. They shouldn’t be allowed to make that a huge plot point in the zero issue if they aren’t going to address it in the mini.


Still a better crossover than Infinity though.

[flint_marko]

It was a crappy story, but Uatu pretty much forced Fury to shoot him here.

[naebler]

I see this less as a reward and more a punishment, much like the old twilight zone episode with the guy who is alone to read with broken glasses, Burgess Meridith if I remember. He spent all that time wanting to know everything, see everything and now he has his wish but his life is over. Chained to the moon, ever seeing, ever knowing and never being able to act.

Nick Fury was a man of action who lived too long, he sacrificed the faith and life of his friends/family/loved ones and ended up a battered forgotten old man forced to see his greatest delusion of being the only one to keep the world safe, flawed and faulty. For Nick Fury, the original hasselhoff looking bastard, the original Howling Commando this is Hell. Alone, forgotten, knowing too muh and unable to act.

That's one thing that strikes me the most about this end for Fury

[chortles81]

"forced to see his greatest delusion of being the only one to keep the world safe, flawed and faulty"

The idea that in the end his life as "the man on the wall" was for naught and that he's past his usefulness but won't do anything else, and that the Duggan LMD refused to (as he saw it) enable Fury's behavior and rationalization/self-justification.

[md84]

I can see why Uatu would give in to despair after watching Earth for so long. The guy sees EVERYTHING that's happening on Earth. Every time parents beat and starve their kids, he sees it. Every time kids beat up other kids while the school ignores and downplays it, he sees it. Every rape, every murder, every hate crime...he sees it all. And for the most part he can't do a damn thing about any of it, despite having the power to do so. Yeah it's mitigated by the fact that he also sees everything good happening on Earth, but that's gotta be hard on the soul. And the reason Uatu is the only Watcher so far who felt this way was because he was the only one who actually gave a crap about the people he was watching.

No wonder Uatu thought the most fitting ironic hell for Nick Fury would be to make him Uatu's successor.

[mr_cyn1cal]

Ah, another in Marvel's continuing series "Superheroes are useless, we need HARD MEN WHO MAKE HARD HARD CHOICES FOR THE REST OF US!"

I can see why Uatu would want out of watching the Earth - watching this tired storyline over and over again would make one reconsider a lot.

So down with superheroes - the only reason they get to be the good guys is because an Unaccountable Space Sniper with his Mary Sue powers has been keeping you safe the whole time (minus, you know, Galactus, the Skrulls, Dire Wraiths, Ultron, etc etc.)

Disgusting.

[punishermax]

You uh...you realize Fury is clearly the villain right? Like, I really don't know how you're getting this interpretation at all other than wanting to be angry for some reason.

[shadowpsykie]

it's really bothering me that the glowy eye is seen on his right eye in one panel and the very next one it's in his left....

[icon_uk]

One of Nick Fury's lesser known skills is juggling. He also does table top magic and can guess your weight to within 6 ounces.

[arilou_skiff]

Seriously, I'm so fucking tired of Marvel disrespecting their cosmic entities.

[jmacq1]

That and disrespecting their heroes.

Between this and New Avengers....who's next on their "gonna make 'em into a villain who still thinks they're a hero to be complex and mature and s**t!" agenda?

I'm betting Captain America. He's pretty much the only one they have left at this point (and yeah, I know he's all old-ified at the moment).

We already know it's happening to Thor, since he's not going to be "worthy" anymore.