Date: 2015-04-25 05:25 am (UTC)
superfangirl1: (Default)
From: [personal profile] superfangirl1
Oh come on DC, really? Lois Lane would never do that to Clark, with going behind his back and revealing his secret to the world in a dirty sleazy way. So Clark is going to be in a dark bitter resentful mood, because one of his friends betray him?
Edited Date: 2015-04-25 05:45 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-25 05:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
. . .
I got nothin'.

Date: 2015-04-25 05:50 am (UTC)
nate_abril96: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nate_abril96
You know I was excited for Superman post-Convergence. People said that it looked like it was trying to make Superman "edgier," but I did not see it as I loved the return of jeans and t-shirt Superman with the Max Fleischer "S!" (Oh the nostalgia.) I also didn't mind Superman's identity being revealed as it was something different that has never happened in mainstream continuity. Unfortunately, after hearing this news, and seeing Lois and Clark's interaction my excitement has gone down.

Date: 2015-04-25 06:00 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: Charlie Crews vs. Faucet (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Well, I can see how... Wait, what?

Despite that one scene in Mark Waid's IRREDEEMABLE, I don't see Lois Lane as being that spiteful over Clark "fooling her" for so long. On the other hand, I liked how SMALLVILLE and MAN OF STEEL has Lois in on "The Secret" from the start.

Date: 2015-04-25 07:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] chrisdv
That's not true - whilst she knows Clark is Superman when he officially reveals his existence to the world in the series finale, Lois still has 4 or 5 years where she's being lied to about it.

In fact, it's debatable that Smallville!Lois has more right to be pissed New52!Lois, since it's not just Clark lying to her.

Date: 2015-04-25 09:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zapbiffpow
Yeah, that Irredeemable scene did make me think. In this day and age, how would someone like Lois react to someone like Clark revealing his secret?

I mean, if something as trivial the BvS trailer got leaked...

Date: 2015-04-25 10:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lordultimus
The thing about Irredeemable is, the Plutonian dated Alana AS the Plutonian. She just knew his Clark Kent style identity as the dork she worked with who had a bit of a crush on her. Then he proposes to her as the Clark Kent style identity, then reveals the secret immediately after, causing her to freak out (it helps that she also revealed his identity on impulse immediately afterwards).

When they decided to have Clark and Lois marry post-crisis, not only were Superman and Lois never actually an item (I think), the entire romance was AS Clark, and she got engaged to CLARK. He only revealed the secret after the engagement, by switching from Clark clothes to Superman ones (she still punches him, but still.)

This was a premeditated thing, painted entirely to make Lois look like some harpy who can't get over him keeping a secret from her, despite the fact that they were NEVER an item in the nu52. Even the panels with her apologizing for it are done in a way that "she feels bad because what she did was awful and she's awful for doing it".

Date: 2015-04-25 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
This is... I don't... What?

Date: 2015-04-25 06:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thedocyoshi
Well... at least they're sticking to their guns and are sticking to the new status quo?

Despite maybe 3 plus years of people not being happy with Superman not being with Lois by this point.

Date: 2015-04-25 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
5'll get you 10 it's a dream, a hoax or an imaginary story.

Date: 2015-04-25 09:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
Of this will be a lead in to Convergence, so the point will be sort of moot.

Date: 2015-04-25 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
Convergence has already started.

Date: 2015-04-25 10:04 am (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
The S logo with the glasses as the Newscast logo is just so.... silly. Is Clark Kent THAT renowned for wearing spectacles?

Date: 2015-04-25 11:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crimsonmoonmist
Way I see it. I assume it's supposed to look like the S is taking off its glasses to "reveal" its identity.

Date: 2015-04-25 01:11 pm (UTC)
thatnickguy: Oreo-lovin' Martian (Default)
From: [personal profile] thatnickguy
"Actually, it's about ethics in newspaper journalism."

*sigh* Just another reason that DC Comics is dead to me.

Date: 2015-04-25 02:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tigerkaya
Wow, the people of DC earth are horrid people.
Edited Date: 2015-04-25 02:55 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-25 03:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
I keep wanting to like Superman, but it feels like DC is bound and determined to avoid doing any Superman story that I'd actually like. Ever since the New 52 launch, I feel like Action Comics under Morrison and Morales is the only book that didn't just do a bunch of "sad Superman" stories.

Date: 2015-04-25 06:54 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
There's been a few good ones. Like the bit where, depowered for a day, he talks a gunman into not shooting either him or a hostage and surrendering.

Date: 2015-04-25 09:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] writeofway
But that showcases how Superman can be inspiring and how sometimes you can solve a problem by listening and talking rather than punching it with enough force to explode a human skull. Can't have that, now can we?

Date: 2015-04-25 11:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
I'd say those stories are more the exception than the rule, the trend seems to be to do optimistic Superman stuff as a breather and a way of resetting things. So we'll get a lighthearted one shot, but then it's right into the next long arc about how much Superman's life sucks.

Date: 2015-04-25 11:48 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Yea, seems right. The reverse is my preference.

Date: 2015-04-25 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
go ahead. this superman has nothing to lose from this anymore, so what do i care if he has his identity? Clark kent is non-existent in Nu52.
Edited Date: 2015-04-25 03:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-25 06:37 pm (UTC)
jaybee3: Nguyen Lil Cass (Default)
From: [personal profile] jaybee3
So much for Convergence being a soft reboot of the reboot to make things better. If there's anything the last few years have taught us is, wow, the brass at DC's publishing side really have issues with Lois Lane.

I wonder how their parent company where Lois is still an important character in the movies/tv/etc. feel about this.

Date: 2015-04-25 06:58 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
Like I've said, it's not a reversion to the old universe I'm waiting for, it's a change in those in charge.

Date: 2015-04-25 11:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
This. Until Johns and Didio are out on the street, I'm not spending money on a DC Comic unless Neil Gaiman has a writing credit on it. (Or, theoretically, Alan Moore, but I assume Hell freezing over would interfere with the printing process.)

Date: 2015-04-25 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
I'm fine with Johns. I loved his Green Lantern, I liked his Aquaman. What makes you think he's a key player in this, besides writing what he's told to.

I do want Didio gone

Date: 2015-04-27 01:48 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Johns has been DC's Chief Creative Officer for the past 5 years, so I assume some responsibility for the trainwreck the company's properties have been engaged in can be laid at his feet.

I really liked Johns' early work on the JSA, and will give him credit for undoing much of the hatchet job Kevin Dooley and Ron Marz did on Green Lantern in the 90s. But his worked veered too far into grim & grittiness for its own sake, and the disrespect with which he treated the original Golden Age Superman in his Infinite Crisis series was my breaking point with the company as a whole.

Date: 2015-04-25 11:51 pm (UTC)
q99: (Default)
From: [personal profile] q99
I'm not convinced Moore still 'has it'... and yea, I don't think it's likely ^^

I could handle Johns having a writing role in the company, but the leadership needs to change, big time.

I was hoping Didio was on the way out half a decade ago.... ^^;

Date: 2015-04-27 01:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Well, I swore my "As God is my witness, I'll never buy DC again!" oath back in 2007, so Promethea was still fresh in my mind at the time and I wanted to leave an out if the infinitely improbable happened. Gaiman was the only exception I seriously expected to make use of.

Date: 2015-04-26 02:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rdfox
Wow. WOW. I'm impressed, DC.

You made me bust it out twice in ONE DAY. *slow clap*

Date: 2015-04-26 02:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alschroeder3
So Superman becomes just another hero who can beat up anybody; just like the rest of them.

And we're supposed to cheer?

As Jules Fieffer wrote long ago, what makes Superman interesting is his point of origin: Clark Kent.

Look, there are some superheroes where you can easily get rid of their secret identity and have an interesting character. Nobody really misses Don Blake. Tony Stark being admittedly Iron Man ruins nothing. But there are a few where it's intrinsic to the character.

Superman is definitely one of these.

I met my wife through the Superman lettercols of Julie Schwartz. We'll be celebrating our 35th anniversary next month. (Some of you may remember a letterhack called "Al Schroeder III". Barb and my marriage was mentioned when we helped pick out the stories in the first edition of THE GREATEST SUPERMAN STORIES EVER TOLD.)

I read this news Friday afternoon...and it ruined my afternoon.

Ave atque vale, Clark. Oh, yeah, I know that's Superman's real name...but you just took away our point of identification for one of the mightiest heroes of all.

Idiotic decision.

Oh, well, the next movie that comes out with Clark Kent--the traditional Clark Kent--in it--they'll reboot time yet again and back he'll be.

DC. Living example of those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
Edited Date: 2015-04-26 02:17 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-04-27 03:47 am (UTC)
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