Uncanny Avengers #12

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[daningram.insanejournal.com]

This was a surprisingly bad ass, quick and emotional 'end' to Ultron/Pym. Be neat to see where it goes next.

[matrix_dragon]

... Really Carol? REALLY?

[tugrul]

Yeah, I'm susprised there's no Civil War II banner there.

[coldfury]

To be fair, Carol wasn't there for the meat of the complexities... all she really knows is 'Ultron'. She doesn't know the sticky parts. So to her, this is black & white, she doesn't know that they're not sure they didn't just send their friend and founding Avenger to the grave with Ultron.

[tigerkaya]

Don't worry Hank, death is far more favorable than Civil War 2 say hi for Bruce Banner and Rhodes for me when you get a chance. On the bright side I don't have to read Rage of Ultron

Oh and Carol, too soon Carol too fucking soon.

[gnarll]

Surely it was about 1982, that cant be too soon?

[tigerkaya]

I guess though I'm sure they celebrated when Carol was still in a coma after the Rogue incident.

[captainbellman]

I've given up counting the up-nostril shots. It's just a given with this artist now.

[nyadnar17]

I am really loving Vision 4.0 or whatever. He actually a really interesting and fun character....plus he doesn't job all the time like some of the earlier versions.

[shadowpsykie]

Way to be an ass Carol

[informationgeek]

Between this and Civil War II, I'm thinking ass is just part of Carol's personality now. :/

[gnarll]

So Ultron kills Pym, and Vision kills Ultron... what a family. Speed and Wiccan distancing themselves seem quite sensible.

[bruinsfan]

Billy should ask Agatha Harkness to teach him that spell she used to make Wanda forget her kids existed.

[nightauditguy]

Vision just killed his dad and grandfather, that's going to leave some issues to deal with.

[donnblake]

As if what's going on in his own book wasn't traumatic enough.

[doctor_spanky]

Reading comics back in the 90s it's weird to see Rogue and Cap Marvel just being fine with each other

[tugrul]

Their encounters have been touched on a lot though. This did not just happen overnight.

[starwolf_oakley]

Plus there was the "AU!Carol who kept killing the Rogue in each universe she entered" storyline in MS. MARVEL Vol 2.

[tugrul]

Yeah, I think she even killed the Carols when they had befriended the Rogues.

[long_silence]

It's become more complicated because Rogue was sharing her body with Carol's ex-boyfriend Simon, who's consciousness seems to have dissipated or been completely suppressed.

[tigerkaya]

Always felt they would eternally hate each other similar to Barry and Ollie hatred of each other.

[raspberryrain]

They'll probably always hate each other, but when on the job, keep your head in the job.

[coldfury]

This was a fantastic arc. It was amazing to see all three teams of Avengers (Uncanny, the core team, and Ultimates) contribute to this when the chips were down. Jesus, we even got character development out of Deadpool this arc.

Deadpool.

This was amazing, this is the sort of thing I want to see out of the Avengers. They're fighting villains, they're working together. They're taking hits, but they're doing what it takes to win. The story has impact, the victory has cost, and the stakes will matter in the future.

This was a great Avengers story, something we didn't see in the Bendis and Hickman years.

[deh_tommy]

To be honest, I'm surprised at how quickly the story revealed the 'Ultron's using Hank Pym's body as a meat puppet (apparently)' plot point, since I expected that would have been dragged out for a bit longer.

I liked the scene where Hank and Wasp were talking about their relationship, reminiscing about happy times like their vacation in Montauk, or their long walks on the beach... then she reveals to Captain America that she just made the whole story up, thus confirming (to her horror) that Ultron killed him.

[glprime]

"Name one Avenger you've successfully killed."
"Hank Pym."

DAAAAAYYYUUUUUUM. Cold as an unfeeling machine, Ultron.