The Unbelievable Gwenpool #6

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[starwolf_oakley]

Heartbreaking. But does this make Gwenpool the Psycho-Pirate of the Marvel Universe? I thought Psycho-Man was the Psycho-Pirate of the Marvel Universe.

[thehood]

In what way?

[starwolf_oakley]

In joke. Both Psycho Man and Psycho Pirate have emotional manipulation powers. And have Psycho in their name.

[starwolf_oakley]

Also, for a while, the Psycho Pirate was the only person who remembered the Crisis happened, at least The way it "really" happened.

[janegray]

I like the art and the story, but I wish they had avoided that ass shot in the cover :/

[monsieur_safior]

Oh please is not even that relevant, your not gonna censor penciller because they dare to drew every part of a body.

Plus I don't say you complainig aboot the last cover of Aquaman, double standard much?

[janegray]

...Are you new here?

If you intend to stay, you may want to learn the difference between "censorship" and "people saying they don't like something."

[rainspirit]

...yeah. Scans_daily was founded by girl and LGBT geeks. People are allowed to say when they're uncomfortable with gratuitous covers.

[monsieur_safior]

What gratuitous ? They nothing wrong with that cover, we can say a little of her butt and ? Is not like is blablant fan service.

[owlbrigade1]

That it could have been worse is not something that makes up for it not being good. I'll agree with you that in the past (and in the barely not-porno variants) it probably would have been a lot worse with Gwen's leotard covered ass being far more prominently displayed, but it still ain't that great.

There are a lot of different poses that could have been chosen to show Miles was restraining her that would not have shown a teenager's leotard covered ass at all. There is nothing wrong with people pointing that out, and expressing a preference for that. That is not censorship, that is merely a person's opinion which they are free to have.

Edit: While we are at it, and I appreciate I do not know the context here, I am not at all keen about the webbing rope around her neck like that in the interior pages. I'm not keen on anyone being roped around the neck if I'm honest. It is a definite squick of mine.

[janegray]

It's not even the pose that bothers me, since in this case it's clearly meant to be humorous (like "hehehehe, I get to be carried by the guy I have a crush on! I'm so happy!"). But rather the fact that the leotard is riding up, looking almost like a thong. If the leotard had fully covered her cheeks, I would have been okay with it.

In any case, I really don't appreciate being told that you can't comment on the sexualization of female characters, with the added bonus of blatant strawman (teenager and possibly minor, carried away ass-first, thong-like leopard VS grown adult, fighting powerfully, fully covered head to toe), in the ONE comic book community on the internet that was specifically and explicitly founded by women for women. If anybody is upset by dissenting female voices, they are very free to participate in the entire rest of comic book comminities on the internet and leave scans_daily alone.

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[monsieur_safior]

And you think then women think all the same thing ? I doubt.

You just overacting aboot an innocent artwork, that just whingeing.

If scan_daily is aboot false femenist who whinne because you can say a little of a butt of a fictionnal female character (because when is a male, everoyne seems a little to happy.) well scan need to change.

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[janegray]

Ok, I'll leave this to the mods.

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[wizardru]

I agree with pretty much everything you're saying, but I was under the impression that Gwen was actually older than Miles. None of which invalidates anything you're saying, to be clear.

[monsieur_safior]

you're talking to whom ?

[dustbunny105]

If the leotard had fully covered her cheeks, I would have been okay with it.

Same. Honestly, the fact that it would've been a perfectly reasonable and cute cover without the extra skin makes it even more irritating, imo.

[thehood]

I'm not sure she has a crush on him, but she clearly looks up to him.

[janegray]

One of the greatest pros of this series is that the writer took the opposite approach writers usually take when trying to build up a new character.

Normally writers have the other characters look incompetent, weak and annoying, so that their fave will automatically look good simply because everybody else sucks. Like the Worf Effect, but dumped on the entire cast.

But here, the writer treats the other characters with respect. Even "easy targets" like Batroc are portrayed with dignity. And as a result, Gwen comes across as a fun and lovable character, rather than a Mary Sue :D

(And I realize the term "Mary Sue" has become so overused these days it basically just means "a character I don't like," but some characters objectively get pampered like babies by their writers. It's like that creepy Google meme: http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aBKLx8Q_700b.jpg)

(Also sorry for the edits. Stupid typos.)

[thehood]

Yeah, MODOK too. One of the first things Gwen learned is that MODOK can be a threat.

[thehood]

Yeah, the previous Gwenpool covers have been better.

[mesmiranda]

Agreed. There's something kind of off about the ass shot on the cover and then the cutesy rounded faces and cartoony art in the interior pages.

[thehood]

Heartbreaking, but also necessary for Gwen. I did like that Batroc helped her out in the end.

[lieut_kettch]

There's something deeply disturbing about how Gwen treats background characters in the MU as if they aren't really people. I can see how it makes sense to her, though.

And come to think of it, I might act the same way if I ever wound up there.

Did a novelty/parody comic just turn me introspective? Whoa.

[leoboiko]

Well, are they sentient? We don't care about a background character dying because we know they're just a bunch of static ink and a concept in people's minds; they can't feel pain or fear of death or will to live. But if we ended up there, it would prove, contrary to our worldview, that there is a "there" to begin with – some sort of another universe, whose inhabitants appear to be sentient, and whose lives are manipulable by our imagination when we're "outside". Under this new worldview, it would not be right to dehumanize fictional characters anymore.

Which would be very much troubling—try not to imagine an hypothetical character being maimed or killed right now. We would have to abstain from fiction with tragedy or pain, and to train ourselves to imagine those things as rarely as possible.

[deepspaceartist]

There would be a question of whether our fiction is controlling their lives or their lives are controlling our fiction. Fiction creators in our world being able to 'see' other worlds and tell their story is no more far fetched then their stories controlling/creating other worlds, after all.

[mizerous]

Miles loves arresting girls huh...