
JOE CORALLO: Chalice’s story appears to be linked to her transitioning and while this is happening, coincidence or not, she is gaining great power. Other stories in different media as well as in the news have used transitioning as shock value and to exploit the trans community for the purpose of entertainment and to feed an inappropriate curiosity. What makes Chalice’s story different?
PAUL JENKINS: I think part of the answer to this is covered above. I certainly understand your point, and have found some of the coverage appalling. Of course, the coverage of the U.S. election/Brexit/terrorism and just about everything else these days is equally appalling. I’m not going to agree that we are somehow taking advantage of trans people simply by writing a character who is trans, especially because we have other characters dealing with different issues and I haven’t heard you complain about us addressing bipolar disorder or the issues facing someone who is quadriplegic. Every single character in our book is presented for the purpose of entertainment, Chalice included. I am in the business of entertainment. But I happen to be a research fiend, and I’m always going to be worried that a trans reader will find my character unrealistic. I feel the same way when I am writing detective fiction – I hope that actual detectives would find my stories plausible, and I try to research them that way. I will take the same approach with our bipolar character, our homeless character, our PTSD characters and so on…
I hope what makes us different from those who would try to exploit the trans community is that we’re focused on story first, and have only a minor secondary agenda in terms of shining a light on various people who are dealing with disadvantage in our society. I think the diversity of our creative team helps. And I’d like to make it quite clear before anyone tries to find fault here that we are absolutely not equating transgender with, say, disability. Our series addresses people who are dealing with disadvantage. Being marginalized by society, misunderstood, bullied, harassed and exploited by the media certainly qualifies for being at a disadvantage. Other characters will have obvious physical disadvantages. Others may have less obvious disadvantages (such as the character with vertigo).
And this leads me to the other issue I had with your previous article – the complaint that this is yet another view of transgender through a cis lens, as if I am disqualified from writing a trans character. You casually mentioned that we do have a core team member who is trans but “that’s not a position with creative control in a narrative sense.” That is an assumption on your part. You don’t know Tamra’s input, so you can’t make that assumption. Now, we each have our jobs on the creative team and it’s not as though I have Leila or Tamra’s artistic expertise. And while you happen to be partly correct – as the writer I am the initial creator of the story – I happen to be a very collaborative writer, and always have been. It has stood me in good stead over the years I have been working in this industry. I invite input, and truly believe that comics are a collaborative medium.
To address the point: where would we be if we were forced to write only what we are? We’d be without Othello, for one thing because Shakespeare was hardly a black, Muslim dude from Venice. I would be forbidden to write people from different ethnic backgrounds than my own, and I would never be able to write a female character. The argument that this series must have a requisite trans writer is specious and absurd: I hope that trans writers create tons of material that will hit the mainstream. I hope a trans creator makes the next popular superhero character, and that no one gives a royal shit that they are trans or otherwise, as it should be. My audience is anyone who wants to read the book. If they happen to be trans I hope they like Alters, and feel we have done a halfway decent job with the trans character, especially.
I’m not one to pay lip service to things – I do understand your concerns and any concerns of the LGBT community who are worried that Chalice is being created in part by some middle-aged straight white guy. I hope (and believe) that we are doing our best to address those concerns. The work should be judged for what it is, not pre-judged for who is creating it.
Source: http://www.comicmix.com/2016/07/05/joe-corallo-the-paul-jenkins-interview/




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Date: 2016-09-18 02:26 pm (UTC)I really wish the interviewer would have cited some examples in media that they think are using trans people and the community in an exploitative fashion, because that is such a loaded question that seems intended to trip the writer up before they've even had a chance to try justifying the character; that and most examples that I've seen in the media seem to have been received fairly positively.
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Date: 2016-09-18 03:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-18 03:53 pm (UTC)The Michelle Rodriguez movie also only seems to have attracted controversy due to things she's said in the past about trans people, I understand, which suggests.. Less an issue with the film itself and more her.
There is also the argument about why there aren't more trans actors or actresses playing trans parts, but at the same time, I think Jenkins argument about 'not being able to write outside what you know' applies there, and that hopefully as the industry opens up more, there will be a place for many more trans people to tell their stories.
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Date: 2016-09-19 12:32 am (UTC)https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/sep/12/reassignment-review-toronto-film-festival-sigourney-weaver
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160913-film-review-is-reassignment-2016s-most-offensive-movie
http://www.indiewire.com/2016/09/michelle-rodriguez-reassignment-review-walter-hill-tiff-2016-1201726670/
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Date: 2016-09-19 05:19 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-19 07:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-18 04:36 pm (UTC)I am also aware that the irritation at the tendency to cast non-trans actors in trans roles, from Hayley Cropper in "Coronation Street" (a cis woman playing a trans woman) to Eddie Redmayne in "The Danish Girl" (a cis man playing a transwoman).
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Date: 2016-09-19 06:34 pm (UTC)Yeah, but I think people complaining about the casting aspect should consider carefully the double-edged sword of the argument, where it would logically follow that trans actors should never be considered for cisgender roles, or openly gay actors for heterosexual ones. I've been arguing against the flip side of that for decades.
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Date: 2016-09-18 08:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-18 10:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-09-19 02:57 am (UTC)...also I'm infantile and snicker because of the whole alter thing. Heh. Might've wanted to research the terminology a little more...