Amazing Spider-Man: The Clone Conspiracy #3

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[thehood]

That cover that had classic Jackal vs new Jackal suddenly makes more sense.

[terrykun]

...BEN, NO.

[rainspirit]

My thoughts exactly! Ben, nooooo.

[bradygirl_12]

"Meh, I guess we could patent this, but I gotta tell ya, Bro, people already come back from the dead on a regular basis around here."

[thatnickguy]

Okay, so that begs the question: who brought HIM back? Because he couldn't have spontaneously regenerated.

[cyberghostface]

The cover for an upcoming ASM issue shows Ben!Jackal fighting the original green one so probably Miles Warren or a clone of him.

[thehood]

I guess that means he needs the pills same as the others.

[mrstatham]

I dunno, Norman Osborn hasn't farted out his latest attempt at returning to greatness in some time.. And he was the guy behind everything in the original Clone Saga, wasn't he?

[cyberghostface]

He'll probably return eventually but I don't think he's involved here. When Ben was recruiting the villains he was in Africa (I think) working with arm dealers. In this case I think Ben's motives are altruistic whereas Norman just wanted to fuck over Peter.

[thatnickguy]

Also, a commenter on Bleeding Cool put it perfectly:

"Stop, my penis can only get so flaccid."

[coldfury]

*Wow*. This storyline turned into a monkey's paw, didn't it.

Fans: "Bring back Ben Reilly, we loved him!"

Slott: *cackles maniacally* "Did you now..?"

[thatnickguy]

Yep. He basically pulled a Mark Waid bringing Barry Allen back.

"Be careful what you wish for."

[thehood]

To be fair, Ben!Jackal hasn't done anything out and out evil, just extremely misguided.

[shadowpsykie]

hmmmm I wonder what Kaine has to say about this...

[seisachtheia]

Where is Kaine these days? Is he showing up in anything?

[cyberghostface]

He's actually in this storyline, he's been infected by the Carrion virus due to Peter's actions in working with the Jackal in alternate worlds.

[thehood]

He is a pretty big part this storyline actually.

[cainofdreaming]

That bit about Peter being surprised about 'Jackal's' strength and speed is weird, since the resurfaced incarnation in the original clone saga was faster and stronger than two Spider-Men.

I guess he's taken lots of hits to the head since then, though.

[mastermahan]

Yeah, he's a master genetic engineer who's given himself powers before. Not too surprising.

[super_fly]

No Spider-Man is immune to bricks.

[lbd_nytetrayn]

Pity, I really liked the Jackyl this time around. I guess now I know why.

Sad, though, because I never liked the original before and now I remain... of the mindset that now won't be any different.

[mizerous]

Same the green Jackal looked god awful.

[rainspirit]

Aww, man. They better not screw this up. Ben Reilly was my Spider-Man as a kid. :(

[dcbanacek]

Since the mask doesn't cover his mouth and he doesn't appear to be using a voice changer, shouldn't Original Recipe Peter Parker be able to recognize his own fucking VOICE?

[cyberghostface]

It's probably well within his abilities to change or augment his voice at this point.

[gnarll]

Unless hes heard it recorded a lot I dont see why. It sounds totally different to your own ears.

[laughing_tree]

Yes, how in the world would someone who's successfully maintained a secret identity from loved ones for years* know how to alter their voice?

*Or has the copied memories of the person who did so, same difference.

[cyberghostface]

FWIW Slott has said the next issue of ASM will explain it.

[laughing_tree]

I hope my ironic tone came through.

[cyberghostface]

Yeah I was just pointing it out for the post.

[captainbellman]

"Everybody lives!"

Jesus Christ, Dan. If cribbing from TV shows is a fundamental part of your writing process, you can at least switch to something other than "Doctor Who".

[laughing_tree]

The sentence -- and it's not even the same sentence -- is being used in an entirely different context. Sorry, man, but you're *really* stretching here.

[captainbellman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMY09ocCykQ

[laughing_tree]

The villain tempting the hero with undoing a loved one's death is hardly a Who-specific trope. Honestly, with nine seasons under its belt, you'd be hard-pressed to find a sci-fi plot that *doesn't* correspond to a Doctor Who ep.

[gnarll]

Color me interested. This is the sort of thing I keep thinking when I look at the super-tech, and go "Why don't they...?"

[captainbellman]

Also, why is this character calling themselves Ben Reilly?

[thehood]

Because they claim to be him.

[joetuss]

C'mon dammit. Uncle Ben had nice staying dead streak going

[tigerkaya]

hmmm, I'll stick to Renew Your Vows, this just seems more retread.

[beyondthefringe]

My first thought: if they have any intention of bringing back Uncle Ben as part of this storyline, they shouldn't have killed off Jay, because imagine the emotional dilemma of May having to deal with her old and new husbands...

My second thought: what if the Jackal let Jay die, and his refusal to bring him back is so that he can restore the Parker family to what it should be, with May and Ben together again at last? If he's truly trying to do all of this for Peter in some twisted way...

My third thought: when do they pull the "And I can also bring back... your parents!"

My fourth thought: How about the burglar? Does he get brought back also?

My fifth thought: how many of the resurrectees will they allow to live afterwards? Because either there's a whole lot of extra trauma when George and Gwen and the Connors and Jean all keel over, or there'll be a weird dynamic with the mass revival of so many characters, both good and bad. I honestly can't predict which way they'll swing at the moment.

Or it might be as impactful as when the Hood brought back a dozen villains to kill the Punisher, and at least half of them are still wandering around... i.e. not much at all. Who knows?

[dragontail]

My second thought: what if the Jackal let Jay die, and his refusal to bring him back is so that he can restore the Parker family to what it should be, with May and Ben together again at last? If he's truly trying to do all of this for Peter in some twisted way...

My daughter and I (we read our comics together) had this exact same thought. Could be this'll be what wakes Peter up to the hypocrisy of Ben's plan: it's not "everybody lives", it's "everybody who I need for my vision of a perfect world lives". And Ben has zero attachment to poor Jay, and would rather the Parker family be reunited... not even for Pete's sake, necessarily, but for his own.

My fourth thought: How about the burglar? Does he get brought back also?

Oooooooh. I would really, really like a scene where Pete asks this of Ben, and Ben says the burglar doesn't deserve it (or similar), which'd further cement his hypocrisy. That and it's cold as hell, given Ben dated the burglar's daughter for a time.

... don't get me wrong: I love Ben, but if he's gonna be the antagonist of this here shin-dig, there need to be flaws in his reasoning or we're never getting out of this moral conundrum.

[chrisdv]

At least the art's nice.

They kind of spoiled this in....

[7dialsmystery]

....the Spiderman/Deadpool series.