Steve Rogers: Captain America #7

[superboyprime]

'A story that I know influenced this and had a big impact on me when I was younger was the end of the John Walker saga in “Captain America”; when the Skull had his consciousness put in a body that looked like Steve Rogers. As a kid I had a visceral reaction to that. The idea of that was terrifying. So it stuck with me. It’s one of my all-time favorite Cap stories.' - Nick Spencer

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[thanekos]

Zemo and Cap.

This raises questions about Under Siege in this history, at least.

[nyadnar17]

That last scene gave me chills.

[dr_archeville]

So Kobik's alteration actually changed the past, and Cap's always been a HYDRA Agent. Which means Helmut will have that memory of helping Steve, since he would have been included in that retcon.

So Steve Rogers & Helmut Zemo grew up as BFFs?

And just how far did Kobik's alteration go?

[aperturedreams]

Helmut doesn't say anything on the subject, so we can't be sure that's true. Probably will know by the next issue though.

[tugrul]

Reality warping can be tricky. Just like when Wanda warped to House of M or the latest Secret Wars. There will always be people that notice things are off or dream about it. I find them exploring his current past boring. I am more interested in how it will unravel.

[freezer]

I'm wondering if/when the flashbacks will reach the point where Steve is chosen to receive the Super Soldier Serum. How are they going to hand wave Dr. Erskine choosing someone who isn't the frail, earnest and genuine Steve Rogers?

[icon_uk]

Presumably the same way that Nazi-Steve has been working as the lauded Captain America and SHIELD ally for so long without anyone catching on, a really GOOD cover story.

[freezer]

Wild Mass Guessing time: When the time to finally bring Steve back to his sense comes, they'll use the little contradictions and anachronisms in his "memories" to make him finally realize something is wrong.

For instance: Where, exactly, would young Steve attend school where he'd have a black schoolmate?

[jlbarnett]

he grew up in the north and was very poor. Being in New York means it was probably at elast possible and being poor bettered the odds

[freezer]

He grew up in Depression-Era NYC. Even poor as he was, the chances of his having a black schoolmate are a half-notch above "Impossible"

[dr_archeville]

I think that's a secret HYDRA Academy, which is somewhere in Europe, not in Steve's native NYC.

[freezer]

Still doesn't explain the black kid.

[lilacsigil]

He could be the mixed-race child of a colonial German - some of their children were educated in Germany, though they were treated about as poorly as you might expect and later stripped of German citizenship.

[cainofdreaming]

Where? Maybe not in the USA, since the other kids refer to him as "the American". And it sounds like it's a Hydra school, rather than a regular one too.

[onsokumaru]

I don't see a black kid. Is it the one with very short hair? Looks like a white kid to me.

[capnduckman]

So... does anyone else see his bullies as Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle?

[mastermahan]

I guess Kobik read Harry Potter?

[mesmiranda]

Very first panel on this page, it's basically a meeting of Slytherins.

(I kind of want Bucky to duel it out with Zemo now. On a purely, shamefully fangirl note.)

[wizardru]

"duel it out"? Is that what the kids are calling it these days? :)

[mesmiranda]

Maybe Nooooo... ?

;)

[icon_uk]

Steve in the Slytherin Common Room sprang to my mind too.

[tigerkaya]

Oh yeah this bullshit is still happening. Another 3.99 is saved.

[nyadnar17]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I find this story to be really well done, kinda amazing, and a little terrifying.

[erikred]

Hey, you got more than a "Meh." out of tigerkaya; quit while you're ahead.

[tugrul]

😂

[tigerkaya]

I would retort with an insult and something scathing but than Icon would probably kick me out, so instead. Aha, so very funny you crack me up. (End of sarcasm)

[tigerkaya]

When you've read one story of brainwash, brain switch and red kryptonite you tend to hate those cliches, that and evil counter parts from alternate earths.

[cainofdreaming]

So, did Kobik alter Zemo's past too, to fit Steve's version? And that's why he now acts, and dresses, like his father?

Hopefully there's at least some explanation.

[thehood]

She hasn't touched Zemo and Zemo had returned to using the Baron Zemo costume years ago.

[starwolf_oakley]

Once this is reversed, and Steve realizes how his memories were changed, his reaction might be the most interesting part of the story. He did horrible things, and he can't say it was mind control since his Free Will wasn't affected. And we won't get a "No harm, no foul" that most mind control stories get, unless Kobik "fixes" that.

[cygnia]

The cynic in me suspects Steve will get forgiven a LOT faster by the public and peers than Carol though...

[tigerkaya]

Not many people forgave Stark either.

[zylly]

To be fair, with his history altered like that, you could make the argument that Steve was literally a different person, and therefore not responsible at all. Not that he'd see it that way.

[sarahnewlin]

Not really liking Black Widow's hair...I wish she would grow it a little bit. She has experience playing for both sides so I am surprised she isn't a bigger part in getting to Cap.