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So, in the year 2000 (or maybe 2001, I forget), Marvel published X-Men: Millennial Visions (which I don't have scans for), where various creators showed various alternate futures (and a few alternate realities) for the X-men. It was popular enough that it inspired the comic Exiles, which featured one of the characters seen in these earths (for the record, it was Nocturne). So next year, they published more of these, also doing ones for the rest of the Marvel universe. These are a few of the more... notable ones.

Date: 2017-02-17 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
The Avengers all having hammers of their own? Yeah, whatevs.
Thor scowling at his tiny regular carpenter's hammer? Priceless.
(Ah, Giarusso.)

-"My son will become a doctor."-
So that's why regular Odin's so down on Jane Foster being Thor!

Date: 2017-02-17 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] donnblake
Samuel Wilson, born in this reality with wings on his back... um... okay. Sure.

Jericho Drumm is known as the Hatian Voodoo dude... is he?

Misty Knight... comes back different. She is now bionic... well, grief will do funny things to you, I guess.

In his gigantic state, Bill looks like a robot. Why? Why does he look like a robot in his gigantic state? Is because of nanites? Not sure I buy that.

Date: 2017-02-17 06:18 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Quicksilver)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
What's the point of speculating a What If? if you're just going to make everything completely unrecognizable?

I mean, the concept of "everyone who isn't black dies" has definite potential. Look at how Y: The Last Man explored a potentially cheesy subject. This is a waste.

Date: 2017-02-17 05:40 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Snake says, "What?" (What?)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Misty's anime arm looks ugly here, but I think it has potential to become a techno version of Witchblade.

Date: 2017-02-17 04:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
The Black Champions.
Yeah. No.

Date: 2017-02-17 06:03 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Guys, you can just call yourselves The Champions.

Date: 2017-02-17 01:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] trooper924
But how are we supposed that they're all black then?

Date: 2017-02-17 05:44 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Shun the nonbelievers! Shun-na! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
Well, that was Black Lightning's reasoning.

I just read someone complaining that no black superhero would ever say what Miles Morales said-- "I don't want to be black Spider-man, I just want to be Spider-man." So I guess there are real people who would really name themselves stuff like that.

Date: 2017-02-19 03:34 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
the difference for Black Lightning is that white people still exist in his universe. So his statement is a political one.

If they're all dead, there's really no point.

Also, while i'm sure there are many who would say what Mile's said, any hero over 20 might meditate a little on why that could be some careless line of thought. Regardless, black adult celebrities say it all the time, we roll our eyes at them too.

Date: 2017-02-17 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] remial
is the all Chinese super team called the Yellow Champions?
or are all asians dead too?

Date: 2017-02-18 03:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mistersandman
The thing that really skeeves me out is how they are all more monstrous/dehumanized versions of the characters as well.

Couldn't help but notice they've effectively castrated Luke Cage and Bill Foster with these reinventions.

Date: 2017-02-20 05:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] glprime
It makes even less sense when all the honkeys are dead. WHO NAMED THEM THAT?

Date: 2017-02-17 04:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cypherfdp
Man some of these are just terrible

Date: 2017-02-17 06:04 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Grimdark Power Pack is the funniest thing ever.

Date: 2017-02-17 08:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I have to assume that writers assigned to these "Grimdark Chronicles" had some sort of bet going and whoever lost had to grimdark Power Pack...

Date: 2017-02-17 05:45 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: Shun the nonbelievers! Shun-na! (Default)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
I'm assuming Jack is gay in that verse and I'm interested in the idea. Katie seems to be Trying Too Hard.

Date: 2017-02-18 07:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Oh, it could totally work as a story. A broken family needing to come back together sets the stage for some amazing drama. Hell, it could even work with a fairly grim tone, shifting between lighter childhood flashbacks and the darker adult present.

EDIT: But not for Power Pack. Use new characters,
Edited Date: 2017-02-18 07:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-02-17 10:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] captainbellman
Hey gang, remember when "Millennial" just meant 'related to the turn of the century' and/or 'New Years x10'? Before it devolved into a bitter slur against younger people who for some reason refuse to mortgage their drives and passions in order to delve into the excesses of consumerism and keep outdated economic models alive? Huh? Do ya remember? Do ya?

Date: 2017-02-17 07:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mesmiranda
No, not really.


*that was a ;) of cynicism and weariness and financial insecurity*

Date: 2017-02-17 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
I believe one of these (Professor W's X-men?) was the seed of the alternate universe that would give us Nocturne in the Exiles.

Date: 2017-02-17 02:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cynic79
These range from goofy to terrible, but that Thor comic sounds excellent.

Looks excellent too: http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/avenhammervisions.htm

Date: 2017-02-17 05:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tugrul
Odin went all Oprah on the Avengers.

Date: 2017-02-17 05:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cynic79
"You get a hammer! And you get a hammer!

But not you, Stedman."

Date: 2017-02-17 05:49 pm (UTC)
lamashtar: My crap writing senses are burning! (crapwriting)
From: [personal profile] lamashtar
The meta writeup for mutant!Spider-man is hilarious. "I just wanted to write a nice and fun Spidey story and now he's terrible and everyone hates it."

And Osborn giving only TWO days of paid offtime for information leading to Spiderman's capture? That is CHEAP, son. Maybe him and Jameson are crossed in that verse.

Date: 2017-02-17 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] remial
"hear that fans are comparing to the Clone Saga"?
Why does Marvel think the Clone Saga was well received?
how far in denial ARE they?

Date: 2017-02-19 03:27 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Why would they need to be called the 'Black Champions' if all white people are dead anyway, tad redundant.

And the Power Pack grew up to be boring. That's a shame!
Edited Date: 2017-02-19 03:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-27 01:58 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Right? The Champions works just fine.

I also kinda wish they'd mention Jericho Drumm being a psychiatrist.

White plague kills all Superheroes....

Date: 2017-02-19 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] 7dialsmystery
...wow, that's a real insult to Luke Cage & Misty Knight and dozens of other characters.

Also, what about Asians & Latinx heroes? Are they dead or incapacitated?


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