Date: 2017-06-21 12:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] leoboiko
Hydra Steve has such a great touch for fascist fashion. I like to imagine the hours he spends pondering various models of military uniforms and Supreme Commander capes etc.

Date: 2017-06-21 02:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thanekos
Might even've done some of the design work himself- he made his Nomad costume on his own, after all.

Date: 2017-06-21 01:11 pm (UTC)
informationgeek: (djpon3)
From: [personal profile] informationgeek
Yeah well Steve, why would Europe want to listen to Fascists/Nazis exactly?

Date: 2017-06-21 03:35 pm (UTC)
malitia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] malitia
Especially American Fascists/Nazis.

I mean European tradition for this type of nastiness is generally, well, nationalistic, so subgroups of different countries hate each other, and tend to only unite if they see a common enemy (real or imaginary).

Date: 2017-06-21 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] onsokumaru
When I see how much french far right admire Trump and Putin, I'm pretty sure they would absolutely love Captain Hydra and praise him for saving their country from the left dictature.

Europe is a Continent, not a Country

Date: 2017-06-22 07:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
Didn't Germany and Italy become fascist states for a while? I think there was a bit of a scare in Ireland, too.

I think the whole point of Steve Rogers' speech here is that his goals seem to resonate with people (particularly the disenfranchised and dispossessed).

Date: 2017-06-21 01:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sadoeuphemist
'Exile and embargo' as a response to espionage and hostile attacks on US soil. My god, and this is Steve trying to be threatening. How the fuck is that supposed to work? A foreign agent steals state secrets from you, so your threat is to exile them back to their home nation with all the information they managed to retain???

Date: 2017-06-21 01:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] liliaeth
This seems interesting. From what I see here, it's nice that so far these people don't seem to be national stereotypes, which is always good to have more of.

Date: 2017-06-21 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
Ares' entrance in USAvengers was magnificent. Not just for kicking ass, but his contempt for the pilot was beautiful, and a good example of how the God of War has grown since the days he was just a generic villain.

Date: 2017-06-21 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
OH NO! a flying rock has knock out friend Wonder Man, I must steal his car

Date: 2017-06-21 05:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
I love, loved, loved all of that. I enjoy grown up dad Ares but I do hope "Sorry friend I can not hear you over the return fire" Ares makes an appearance from time to time.

Date: 2017-06-21 05:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
lol yeah. also, is Phobos still alive again? is Ares being able to be the Daddy he wasn't able to be? if so I can't contain the emotion!

Date: 2017-06-21 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] astrakhan42
Phobos is still dead. Ares was taken away from him in their eternal rest and he wants to get back there eventually. It was beyond his control; he was resurrected during Contest of Champions (also by Ewing and definitely worth a read).

Date: 2017-06-21 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I love that Doreen is the only one I've seen go "yeah, it's awful that Cap turned on us ... but has anyone else noticed all the dead people running around in this crossover?"

I wonder if she somehow inherited Rick Jones' "comics awareness"

Date: 2017-06-21 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
Well, in this case, Ares coming back from the dead happened off-world and since then he's been relaxing in England. It's fair to be surprised he got better from what Sentry did to him.

Date: 2017-06-21 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Yeah. The resurrection was by the same writer. Just pointing out that I like that SG is pointing it out because she shouldn't now why he's back.

...and this crossover already has too many resurrections that weren't explained.

Date: 2017-06-21 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] astrakhan42
It's awesome that Nick Spencer brought back Euroforce from Avengers World. Now I just want to see what the name for the other European hero team in USAvengers (Ares, Captain Britain, Faiza Hussain, Le Peregrine, Guillotine and Outlaw) is going to be. They should be Avengers Europe.

Date: 2017-06-21 03:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] malitia
The solicit named them the Champions of Europe... but that's not canon until the comic confirms it.

Date: 2017-06-21 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] astrakhan42
Ah, thanks. I stopped reading solicits about six months ago to prevent spoilers. As a side effect I'm occasionally surprised by new comics and appearances (I had no idea Al Ewing's Rocket title existed until the day it came out).

Date: 2017-06-21 05:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] malitia
I don't exactly read the solicit as much as skim it to divine cancellations/endings because Marvel in it's infinite assholishness stopped telling us about those. :/

Date: 2017-06-21 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
I appreciated seeing the Ascendants again

Date: 2017-06-26 10:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naebler
If Cap Britain is a part, why can't they be "Excalibur" or "MI13" I'd love a rebranding and bring back some of our favorite characters.

Where is my Stewarts, Pete Wisdom, Skrull John, Captain Midlands...

Date: 2017-06-21 02:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goattoucher
"My regime."

:rubs temples:
Edited Date: 2017-06-21 02:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-06-21 11:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mesmiranda
♩ ~ Totally not Na-ziiiiis from your friends at Maaa-rvel! ~ ♪ ♫

Date: 2017-06-21 02:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goattoucher
Also, in a moment of gender equality, a lesbian hero planting a kiss on a damsel she just rescued seems -just- as rapey as a male hero doing the same.


Date: 2017-06-21 03:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
is it different because it's france? they seem to be a bit more sexually liberal... honest question... not saying it's not rapey... because, yeah consent is key... but I also think some cultures are a little less restrictive with sexuality.

Date: 2017-06-21 04:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadadukal
I'm French and found it weird. Swordswoman really shouldn't have kissed her because lack of consent is never good. I appreciate that they wanted to show she was bi or lesbian (I know nothing about the character) but this is a very poor way to do it. Maybe have Swordswoman ask for her number instead or something.

Date: 2017-06-21 04:27 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
or like, maybe kiss her hand and then ask for her number. A Kiss on the hand maybe quite contin-oh wait. I mean a kiss on the hand could be seen as more chivalrous, and then asking for her number would have made it clear.

Date: 2017-06-21 04:32 pm (UTC)
shadadukal: (Marvel : Daredevil black outfit)
From: [personal profile] shadadukal
I like your idea.

Date: 2017-06-21 08:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dustbunny105
Alternately, would it have been so difficult to depict the woman as being into the kiss? Suggesting they both went in for it rather than that Swordswoman sprang it on her?

Date: 2017-06-21 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
there's not really a good way to do that. I mean they're both total strangers

Date: 2017-06-21 08:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dustbunny105
I don't see why that would necessarily be a problem.

Date: 2017-06-21 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jlbarnett
it just strikes me as very long odds is all

Date: 2017-06-21 11:13 pm (UTC)
mesmiranda: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mesmiranda
Or that stereotypical double air kiss? Or maybe just blow her a kiss. That would've worked.

Date: 2017-06-21 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Aren't the Swordspeople traditionally villains or ex villains?

Date: 2017-06-21 08:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] qalchemist
She's the daughter of the original (ex-villainous, later joined the Avengers) Swordsman.

Date: 2017-06-21 02:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pyrrhocorax
I love that Doreen clearly said "un petit pois" instead of "un petit peu".

Date: 2017-06-21 06:50 pm (UTC)
toby_wan_kenobi: (Default)
From: [personal profile] toby_wan_kenobi
Ooh, good catch.

Date: 2017-06-21 10:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastiff
Ouais! :D I was wondering if anyone else caught that.

Date: 2017-06-21 11:14 pm (UTC)
mesmiranda: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mesmiranda
I was wondering what "a little pea" was in French! My skills are rustier than I thought.

Date: 2017-06-21 03:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
HAHAHAH SG's reaction was EXACTLY mine...

also... yay Swordswoman!

Date: 2017-06-21 03:35 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
careful steve, you cray cray is showing.....

you've got... craaazy eyes...
hailing hyrdra, screaming until you cry!
Craaazy eyes....

Date: 2017-06-21 07:17 pm (UTC)
byc: (Default)
From: [personal profile] byc
Hydra Cap looking a lot like Strucker in that close up.

Date: 2017-06-21 09:09 pm (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
I loved how Black Panther dragged Hydra Steve.


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