Date: 2017-10-26 10:22 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Robin oh THIS is going to end well)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
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Date: 2017-10-26 11:17 pm (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Since adult Jean has been confirmed to be coming back, I'm guessing that Emma is being set up as her archenemy.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

Date: 2017-10-26 11:22 pm (UTC)
zechs80: (Eye Twitch)
From: [personal profile] zechs80
And with Scott dead, Jean can pursue her love with Logan!!!

Date: 2017-10-27 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nightauditguy
Or hook up with teen Scott

Date: 2017-10-27 06:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goattoucher
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Date: 2017-10-27 03:44 am (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: Charlie Crews vs. Faucet (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
The Morrison Era can be a tough sell. I wonder if all those students are why "No more mutants" was needed according to Quesada.

Date: 2017-10-27 07:04 pm (UTC)
goattoucher: (Spidey)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
Morrison, more than other authors, established a wider spectrum of mutants in the world. He introduced the idea that there are a -lot- more mutants than are in the X-Men, and that most of them have benign, weak, or outright deleterious mutations. He also introduced a widespread mutant culture, and (IIRC) MutantTown as a neighborhood in NYC. The X-Men were the most powerful and beautiful, which is why Professor X chose them as his team.

While I did not like most of Morrison's New X-Men stories, I did like his world building. Quesada tore all that down as part of the whole "Reset the MU to 1988" thing that went every so well.

Tearing down mutants in order to undercut Fox's claim on the X-Franchise came later.
Edited Date: 2017-10-27 07:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-10-27 10:52 pm (UTC)
starwolf_oakley: Charlie Crews vs. Faucet (Default)
From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Chris Claremont's UNCANNY X-MEN #445 with Alan Davis had Logan say Xavier picked whom he picked for the X-Men due to telepathy. It wasn't just the powers or they were pretty. But because Charles could "tell" who could handle protecting a world that hates and fears you.

Date: 2017-10-28 08:39 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
There have been more than a few versions of that, such as Xavier (in a flashback) telling a recently recruited Warren to face that he didn't pick him because of his powers.

And then we have the pretty awful (IMHO) scene from X-Men Annual #10 where Storm waffles on about why some are X-Men and some aren't and it doesn't make her look good.

Date: 2017-10-29 04:52 am (UTC)
goattoucher: (Cyke)
From: [personal profile] goattoucher
As that may be, Morrison described the rank and file mutant's perspective on the matter.

It is certainly true, because, as we eventually see, there are -plenty- of powerful (and pretty) mutants that would not have made very good X Men at all.

Perhaps it was a combination of the two: Exceptional power combined with the will to use it and the altruism to use it for the betterment of all (as opposed to just themselves, or just mutant kind). This seems likely, because as heroic as Ororo might have been without her powers, all of the X-Men enlisted by Xavier had powers that were useful in combat. There were doubtless numerous mutants who were plenty brave and altruistic, but who were more or less just regular folks, except blue, or with a 40 inch neck or what have you.

Indeed, the events following M Day saw depowered mutants unilaterally put on the buss, both literally and figuratively. Though, just as notably, Prodigy stayed on despite being depowered.

At any rate, YMMV in this regard, but I liked that Morrison created a wider world of mutants than just the Xavier Institute and various Evil Mutant or Mutant Revolutionary organizations. "Regular Guy/Gal/Person" mutants who have a variety of opinions on higher profile mutants. Whether their criticisms were credible or not is a matter of debate, but hearing the alternate viewpoint was interesting.

I mean, regular folks in the MU being unappreciative cranks is hardly without precedent.
Edited Date: 2017-10-29 04:52 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-10-27 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] balbanes
Oh gawd, I pushed the Xorneto nonsense out of my head. I can't even remember where things ended up after all the retcons. I think Xorn had a brother who thought he was Magento but wasn't?

Date: 2017-10-27 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] long_silence
The Xorn/Magneto in Morrison's run was Kuan Yin Xorn. He died

He had a twin brother, Shen Xorn, who has been a sometimes ally of the X-Men. He was recently the puppet ruler of New Tian, or as I like to call it Mutant California.

Date: 2017-10-28 08:40 pm (UTC)
icon_uk: (Default)
From: [personal profile] icon_uk
IIRC In Morrison's run there never was an actual Xorn, he was always Magneto under an alias.

Date: 2017-10-30 03:40 am (UTC)
glprime: (Default)
From: [personal profile] glprime
Right, and then later authors/editors were like, "uhhhh, NO, there was totally a real Xorn who got high on drugs and went cuh-raaaaazy thinking they were Magneto, thinking they were Xorn." (What?)

It was awful.

Date: 2017-10-30 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
I feel Secret Invasion missed a trick there. Just a small scene of a Skrull infiltration team that was supposed to replace Magneto, and then he goes and "dies" in the sentinel attack on Genosha.

"We need a guy in the mutant power bloc! This Xorn fellow is perfect."

" But he just refused Xmen membership. AND we don't have the equipment to erease the Magneto personality"

"They'll ask again. And we'll just suppress the Magneto personality and imprint Xorn on top of it. Magneto has no mental powers anyway, there is no reason for his personality imprint to have ways of unpacking itself after a mindwipe. This is a military operation and nothing can go wrong with that!"

Date: 2017-10-27 06:02 pm (UTC)
theflames: The Joker best expression. (Default)
From: [personal profile] theflames
Nice art. Slight disservice to Emma. Jean is dull. The cuckoos look good here, wish they'd come back to their original concept and really have that worked with, the current 'i wanna be individual' take almost feels dull/lazy. 5 girls who have some zeal/pride about their hive mind is much better.

Date: 2017-10-29 05:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
I see they even tried to emulate the Frank Quitely style of art from that particular era.

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