Preview: Rogue and Gambit #2

[lordultimus]

source: syfy.com

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[garth2the2ndpower]

I gotta say, I love the layout of that two-page spread, especially due to the fact that they omit the time when Gambit became a horseman of Apocalypse because he was jealous of the new boyfriend Mystique picked out for Rogue without her knowledge or approval.

[icon_uk]

Gotta save SOMETHING for the second session.

[scorntx]

That's not the all of it.
He also joined Apocalypse, planning to betray him and save the X-Men afterward, only to wind up being brainwashed like everyone else, leaving the X-Men pissed by him apparently turning on them for no reason because he didn't explain this to them.

[randyripoff]

Correct me if I'm wrong (I probably am) but wasn't Rogue supposed to be more or less immune to telepathy? I'm pretty sure I recall that being a point when she first joined the X-Men, that Charles couldn't read her mind.

[balbanes]

Because she had absorbed Carol Danvers' psyche and telepathy resistance. She lost those after the Siege Perilous, when that portion got sheared off (but the power set remained, until later).

Comics!

[icon_uk]

I didn't realise it was specific to having Carol Danver's psyche, I thought it was just all the extra minds she had in her head confusing things.

The more you know.

[balbanes]

Part of it was that Carol is half Kree, which gave her mild psychic abilities (that have since been largely forgotten). Another part was that permanent power absorption rendered Carol a "full" psyche in Rogue's head, as opposed to the "shadow" psyches from temporary power absorption. This even let Carol take over for Rogue at times, when Rogue was tired or knocked out.

So having two people (one a human/Kree hybrid) in one brain made that brain unusually resistant to telepathy.

[bruinsfan]

Yep, apparently the two thought streams kind of scrambled each other when anyone tried to read Rogue's mind. Professor X's powers were able to affect her in other ways though, like enhancing control of her own abilities to keep them from absorbing other people's minds while she got their powers. And I assume things like direct psi bolts would have worked as well against her as anyone, though the mindgames evil telepaths like to use as psychic attacks probably wouldn't.

[randyripoff]

Thanks!

[joetuss]

This got a little bit of hate the last time someone posted it, but I think it's awesome.

[icon_uk]

I think part of it might be that they work so much better apart as people, but are perfectly fine as two characters interacting otherwise.

I have no problem seeing them working together, it's them BEING together that I find irksome.

Did that make sense?

[shadowpsykie]

I'm curious... why don't you like them as a couple. they are personally one of my power couples... I mean, I could KINDA understand Kitty and Peter... what with them starting with here being a minor... but other than that....

[icon_uk]

It's mostly down to my dislike of Gambit, he's always struck me as rather... skeevy.

Leaving aside the retcon that he gathered the Marauders and is thus undirectly responsible for the Great Mutant Massacre, he's just... a lot of unpleasant (to me) clichés; the roguish thief whose confidence seems to descend into smugness much too often,

Plus he started out with a "charm" emotional tweaking ability (which luckily seems to have fallen by the wayside), which, given his somewhat dubious sense of boundaries, always put me off him.

He apparently owned only one, very peculiar looking and impractical, set of clothes for the entire 1990's (and much of the 00's) for both heroics and civilian activities.

Essentially, I never understood what Rogue was supposed to see in him, beyond smooth talking, and felt she could do a whole lot better.

[shadowpsykie]

fair enough... they still my OTP though.

[q99]

I can totally get why she liked him- he openly flirted with her despite knowing her powers, at a time when few did. Sure the Xmen wouldn’t view that as a barrier, but none then were pursuing her, and considering her experiences, being emotionally validated as attractive meant a lot to her. That and while his flirting is on the skeezy side, iirc he did respect boundaries and would back off if asked.

Now at this point Rogue is well past that stage, but by now they have a history and a lot of good times. It’s not *that* long ago that, say, in Xtreme Xmen she was depowered and the two just hung out as a normal couple for awhile. It’s not like with Kitty/Piotr where there was a huge gap, I’d say in-universe that was maybe a year or so before M-Day. And they’ve been on and off since. I think to an extent, Gambit’s been a comfort relationship at times, she can go back to the flirting and count on it being there, and also doesn’t expect him to ask her to settle down or such.

Now this is not exactly the best way of handling things on her end either, the relationship councilor makes total sense, but emotionally I think it works better than Kitty/Piotr, which is an old crush on one end and someone to put on a pedestal on the other currently happening in the wake of a rebound canceled-marriage. Kitty is making some bad relationship decisions that’ll clearly crash and burn, while Rogue/Gambit is based on some strong emotional history that doesn’t quite add up to a stable relationship but does add up to the occasional on-again, and includes a level of self awareness (like, I think you couple read this post to Rogue and she’d agree) that Kitty and Piotr don’t have.

[icon_uk]

IIRC he was actually pretty BAD at boundaries, constantly trying to sneak a kiss when she had repeatedly made clear the problems that that would entail. She also repeatedly threw him into walls for pushing his luck.

I'd like the Kitty/Piotr thing to be over quickly, but it looks like it's being turned into a X-event, "The Wedding of the Year" or whatever and given the last big X-wedding was Storm and Black Panther... well, we all remember how that one turned out...

[q99]

Ah, maybe I do misremember some. Still, the other stuff applies.

-I'd like the Kitty/Piotr thing to be over quickly, but it looks like it's being turned into a X-event, "The Wedding of the Year" or whatever and given the last big X-wedding was Storm and Black Panther... well, we all remember how that one turned out...-

Honestly both have the exact same problem- rushing into it.

Storm and T'challa could be great... *with a three year buildup*, not suddenly-married. Kitty and Piotr could be re-established in a healthier more mature place, but their one-year build up did not do that and them breaking up due to having grown apart and Piotr's fixation on idealizing her and Illyana is still too fresh in my mind, and ditto Kitty's whirlwind-then-fall-apart romance with Starlord.

Honestly I can believe the Kitty/Piotr one, but in the "whoooa, these people are bad at relationship decisions," sense.

[joetuss]

Yeah, I get it, but I've always liked them as a couple.

[kore]

Oh, nice icon.

[joetuss]

Thanks 😊

[balbanes]

I don't mind them interacting, but I'll hate it if they get back together.

I wasn't opposed to this ship back in the early 90s. But Rogue has done a lot of growing since then, whereas Gambit is the exact same guy. It's like having a gal spend a decade getting three degrees and traveling the world, then return to her crappy small town and date the ex-boyfriend who still works at the gas station.

BTW: I'm opposed to the Kitty/Piotr engagement for the same reason.

[joetuss]

Damn...forget that the ex with the blue collar job, from the crappy town might actually be a good guy, who really loves her.

[balbanes]

So what?

Relationships need more than "good guy who loves her." That's literally the bare minimum. She can do a lot better.

[joetuss]

Yeah, degrees, and sourjorns...i get it.

[daningram.insanejournal.com]

"It's like having a gal spend a decade getting three degrees and traveling the world, then return to her crappy small town and date the ex-boyfriend who still works at the gas station."

You've probably described like five rom-coms from the past few years.

I don't disagree with your statement mind, just sayin' ;)

[balbanes]

And every Hallmark movie, ever. :)

This is part of the reason I don't like rom-coms, with a few exceptions.

[icon_uk]

It's more than that, it's also the borderline creepy behaviour the guy at the gas station has displayed on multiple occasions.