Titans #19

[lordultimus]

Dan Abnett: "Taking over Titans, which has a long-standing legacy as part of the DC Universe, I knew that part of their legacy is the idea that they're the understudies. They are the junior versions of the big heroes. And that's fine, but after awhile, that becomes - from their point of view - becomes a difficult cross to bear. Given the caliber of these heroes and what they're capable of doing, they should be absolutely front-and-center alongside the Justice League by now. And yet, because of the nature of a comic universe, these things remain in sort of a stasis. They're always the understudies, no matter how much time passes." - newsarama.com

Comments

[freezer]

The Justice League of Condescension!

[bj_l]

Is Garth still an Atlantean mage or whatever? Superman might want to back off with the patronising shoulder grab.

[starwolf_oakley]

I know Batman isn't as paranoid as he used to be in the 2000's, thank goodness, but this looks like he's saying Nightwing is deliberately ignoring serious problems because the Titans are his friends. Which, given superhero comics, isn't unheard of..

[nyadnar17]

Fuck you too Barry. Nice to see Wally is still paying for your sins.

[strejdaking]

Okay, but have they really NOT been "front and center" alongside JLA for a while now? Like, how many times have they saved the entire world from Trigon or rando alien invasion? Have they not fought Justice League on equal terms in JLA/Titans? It seems to me they are at least right behind them, they just tend to fight their own associated villains, which is true for every DC franchise-Superman is supposed to be the greatest superhero ever, yet he still fights the same villains over and over again and nobody treats Parasite or Toyman as any kind of big deal among supervillains.

[q99]

With the reboots and retcons? I really don't know.

[lieut_kettch]

I hate that this incarnation of the League never had a time when Wally worked alongside them as an equal. Pre-Flashpoint Bats, Barry, and Supes would never act this way towards Wally.

[q99]

Minor thing that bugs me- "It's not like that-" "It's exactly like that, I'm reading your mind."

Wonder Woman doesn't do the white-lie thing. It'd work better if Omen did that exchange with, say, Barry.

[jlbarnett]

Pre-Flashpoint Supes, who this is, shouldn't act like that towards the Titans

[shadowpsykie]

can anyone run down what the main issue is here?

[zylly]

The League are coming off as extraordinarily condescending and high and mighty here. They don't just get to decide who can be a team or a super-hero. And yeah, the Titans have had some missteps since they got back together, but they've also done some good, and more importantly, they've proven they'll walk through hell for each other. Pushing on one's only going to get the others to lock down further.

[jmacq1]

So...what, they're going to keep Donna Troy in custody until...when exactly? However many years in the future Troia came from? Until the Titans DON'T die? I'm a wee bit confused as to what this apparently ridiculously condescending and authoritarian interpretation of the Justice League has in mind for their endgame.

Batman making that "Any metahuman problem" line is just...yeah.