Date: 2018-05-23 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
Um... okay?

Date: 2018-05-23 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] aperturedreams
The big ending to Bendis' Marvel tenure is a literal reprint of one of his X-Men annuals? Seriously?

Date: 2018-05-23 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
It's like three pages out of an oversized issue.

Date: 2018-05-23 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] aperturedreams
I know, I realize that, but it isn't a little cheap to charge 6 bucks and then have 3 of the pages be complete reprints?

Date: 2018-05-23 02:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
For three pages, no. I've seen anniversary issues that waste space by reprinting an entire old issue at the back or meaningless stuff like black and white pencil art. In this case it's relevant plot material that first appeared in a non-Iron Man book so I can see why Bendis thought it should be included.

Date: 2018-05-23 01:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] simiansyndicate
Someone explain all of this to me, like I'm a child.

Because I don't get ANY of this.

Date: 2018-05-23 02:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Tony was able to bring Rhodes back to life via the same way he was able to 'reboot' himself after Civil War II.

And in an indeterminate future Tony is set to become the Sorcerer Supreme.

Date: 2018-05-23 05:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
And in an indeterminate future Tony is set to become the Sorcerer Supreme.

Which I call utter BS on. I doubt Stark could accept the metaphysics, symbolism, and irrationality of magic enough to learn how to light a candle, much less become the most advanced practitioner on earth.

At Marvel the practice of magic also seems to be like artistic talent, something you're born with an aptitude for and have to develop through a lifetime of learning and practice. Hence why Victor von Doom is a middling sorcerer despite likely being the most intelligent one on the planet, whereas others have shown far greater knack for it. Stark's never shown a hint of that aptitude, and at times has been openly contemptuous of the art. That's not a mindset that lends itself to mastering something.

Date: 2018-05-23 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] silicondream
Doom is middling? Thought he was generally next in line for Supremeness after Strange.

Date: 2018-05-23 11:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bruinsfan
Doom came in second in a competition for the title (in which he, Strange, and a bunch of minor magicians never seen before or since competed), but even in that graphic novel it was clear that his magical abilities weren't all that impressive and he was squeaking by thanks to his intellect and tactical experience. Noteworthy magicians not participating included:



Agatha Harkness
Baron Mordo
Belasco
Clea
Dakimh the Enchanter
Daimon Hellstrom
Isaiah Curwen
Jennifer Kale
Kaluu
Kulan Gath (alive at that time)
Marie Laveau
Merlin
Morgan Le Fay
Salome

I'd say any of the above are more skilled and talented at sorcery than Doom, with Salome having been Sorceress Supreme in the distant past and Merlin having been the de facto Sorcerer Supreme in the Dark Ages without officially holding the office.

I'd also say that Wanda Maximoff and Elizabeth Twoyoungmen can channel lots more power than Doom, though he might actually be more expert as each is an edge case who owes her power to something other than years of rigorous study and training.
Edited Date: 2018-05-23 11:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-05-24 12:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sapphite
"Which I call utter BS on. I doubt Stark could accept the metaphysics, symbolism, and irrationality of magic enough to learn how to light a candle, much less become the most advanced practitioner on earth."

Well, there was that one What-If where he became the Sorcerer Supreme. And he figured out how to integrate magic into his suit with the Thorbuster armor. And he built magic weapons and armor during Fear Itself.

Tony's not generally portrayed as someone who's incapable of understanding magic. It's just an avenue he hasn't really pursued

Date: 2018-05-24 04:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
He was Sorcerer Supreme in Generations: Iron Man, right? Doesn't he say magic and technology are basically the same thing in that one?

Date: 2018-05-23 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nightauditguy
No one stays dead in Marvel except for Uncle Ben

Date: 2018-05-23 03:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
actually, there is a new spider-man story arch coming out called "Great Responsibility" which everyone is alluding to the return of uncle ben...

Date: 2018-05-23 03:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
I wouldn't put it past them to tease it but it'll probably be like in the past when it turns out to be a clone or alternate reality version.

Date: 2018-05-23 05:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
Infinity killed Sue Dibny?

And without a BAMF sound, it looks like Nightcrawler is wearing a giant tutu.

Date: 2018-05-23 05:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] garth2the2ndpower
Behold, the Codpiece of Agamotto!

Date: 2018-05-23 07:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
"Hey baby, wanna see my repulser Ray?"

(Yes, I think Stark would make for an even creeper Sorcerer Supreme than the guy who slept with his student)

Date: 2018-05-24 03:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] garth2the2ndpower
Who slept with who now?

Date: 2018-05-24 10:49 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Strange and Clea.

Date: 2018-05-25 03:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starwolf_oakley
Roger Stern has pointed out the squick factor of Strange and Clea dating while he was training her.

"Morgana Blessing was the sort of woman that Doc would have had a relationship with, in his previous career as a high-priced surgeon. She was the Earthly love, in contrast with the ethereal, extradimensional Clea. All the regular readers loved Clea, of course, but the relationship she and Doc had was not exactly an enlightened one. If Clea had just been Doc's lover that would have been okay, but she'd also become his student, his disciple. It was a case of 'I love you, Clea.' 'And I love you, Master.' And not in a sweet, innocent, I Dream of Jeanie way, either. Not a healthy relationship, not healthy at all." - Roger Stern

Date: 2018-05-25 01:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
And then she left him. For Ben Franklin.

Apparently her "type" is "articulate, over-privileged A-hole"

Date: 2018-05-23 09:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mizerous
Why is Bendis teasing some new SHIELD when they can just bring back the old one?

Date: 2018-05-24 07:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
I imagine the old S.H.I.E.L.D. has garnered something of a bad reputation after leaks of dubious behaviour (mainly kidnapping people and brainwashing them using a Cosmic Cube), as well when their Director turned out to be a HYDRA plant and used the organisation to conquer the United States.

Date: 2018-05-24 12:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] thehood
Technically it's the old SHIELD.

Date: 2018-05-23 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daningram.insanejournal.com
Looks like Bendis is basically fixing what he broke.

Wish other writers as bad as him had the willingness to do that

Date: 2018-05-24 12:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
I'm not a Bendis fan, but he's always been good about putting the toys back in the box once he's done playing with them.

Date: 2018-05-24 03:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mesmiranda
It probably says something about something that dark-haired goatee'd white guy Tony Stark can sub in for dark-haired goatee'd white guy Doctor Strange with a few strategically placed white streaks in his hair.

(I know, I know, they're awesome facial hair bros, but...)

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