Date: 2018-08-19 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Gosh. So 90s up in this comic.

I mean, the Genoshans and their tech are five minutes from being the bad guys of someone's toyline.
(Look, they've even got a vehicle with a net for capturing enemies, the pinnacle of 90s toy tech!)

-"But how could an X-Man come to willingly serve our deadliest enemies"-
In fairness, that's... kind of Alex's "thing" under Claremont, getting brainwashed and / or duped into working for the bad guys.
... makes you wonder if Claremont had something against him, really.

-"Y'spaleens!"-
... egad, she's so shocked she's started talking gibberish.

Date: 2018-08-19 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
Everyone Hates Alex?

Can't blame 'em. It seems like the only times Alex Summers has ever had any decent stories were during his time on the Outback X-Men, and with PAD's X-Factor. Otherwise, it's been shit like Mutant X and his time being inverted after Axis, and of course the on-again, off-again "I just want to be an archaeologist and not a super-hero" trait which defined him early on.

And that time in X-Men under Chuck Austin, which wasn't good to anyone.


Date: 2018-08-19 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
-Can't blame 'em-
Certainly can't.

-And that time in X-Men under Chuck Austin, which wasn't good to anyone-
...
Juggernaut getting a shot at redemption was... not terrible.

Date: 2018-08-19 09:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mastermahan
To be fair, it's kind of everyone's thing under Claremont, though Alex certainly caught more than his fair share.

Welcome To The X-Men. Hope You Enjoy Getting Mind Controlled.

Date: 2018-08-19 08:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beyondthefringe
And so begins... the It-Stinks Agenda.

I have NEVER forgiven this fucking storyline for what it did to characters like Rahne and Warlock. It took years to fix Rahne over in X-Factor under PAD's direction, and even longer to bring back Warlock.

Date: 2018-08-20 02:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
I swear I read somewhere (though I've got no sources handy to back it up) that 'locke was killed because they were gearing up to bring Adam Warlock back, but I don't know if the timing actually works out.

Date: 2018-08-20 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
X-Tinction Agenda began in 1990. Adam was revived in 1991, so the timing checks out, but that line of logic is pretty suspect.

Pretty sure even the casual reader can tell the difference between Warlock the techno-organic alien and Adam Warlock the golden skinned human.
(It's like saying you couldn't have Steven Rodgers and Stephen Strange in the same room, lest people be confused.)

Sounds like a crappy excuse to murder another New Mutant in a cruel fashion, because this was the 90s, and things were getting GRIM, and SERIOUS, and there's no room for alien robots in stories about psychotic cat-women and scowly old men with giant guns and no feet!

Date: 2018-08-20 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
Yeah. Warlock certainly would have been... an odd fit for the more serious tone the New Mutants turned X-Force was going to take. But he just as easily could have been written out as opposed to killed.

Date: 2018-08-24 05:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
At some point I really want to commission a 90's X-Force version of Warlock and Cypher, with Doug attempting the typical macho look, with massive shoulder pads, and probably a headband, and just completely failing to pull it off because he's entirely too clean-cut middle-class white boy, and Warlock as his giant Cable-style weapon, but being Warlock, it's a nerf blaster, with silliness like random cocktail umrella's and banana's as part of it's appearance.

Date: 2018-08-25 02:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zylly
...I would very much like to see this.

Date: 2018-08-24 05:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I despised the almost casual way Warlock's death was handled. I mean, I hated New Mutants #60 for killing Cypher, but I can't deny that that story had genuine impact and repercussions, here it's practically a footnote.

Date: 2018-08-20 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rzerox21xx
isnt Boom Boom 15 at this time, her bikini figure say otherwise. lol. also I read somewhere and it seem obviously with how the Genoshan mecha and soldiers helmets look but Jim Lee took inspiration from Masamune Shirow
Edited Date: 2018-08-20 01:47 pm (UTC)

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