Uncanny X-Men #4

[lordultimus]

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[icon_uk]

You'll get to raise your hand in a vote when you have your proper arm back Anole, and not before!

Have to say, I love that someone is FINALLY calling the "grown up" X-Men out on some of their patronising, high-handed bullshit.

[lordultimus]

Narratively speaking, I would have preferred to have Hellion or Surge express the same discontent.

[long_silence]

Yeah this doesn't sound like Armor's personality at all. She's always been a good soldier who didn't mind that the New X-Men got sidelined because she got to sit at the big kids table.

Meanwhile Surge has had like a half dozen arguments about how the X-Men have been training for exactly this and they should be allowed to fight since their lives are already on the line.

[jlbarnett]

but the "grown up" team is right

I refuse to unknow what I know so all stories like this do is turn me off them

[shadowseeking]

They're really not though.

Armor was right about listening to Legion, Rockslide was right about how dumb it was to have them on clean up duty instead of actually helping, and Armor was right about how crappy it is to expect her to just abandon the rest of the 'students' (who at this point have graduated/been promoted about 2-3 times already)

[icon_uk]

Even if they ARE right, and as noted above, that's either debatable, or just plain wrong, Jean's manner here is appalling.

The senior team can't spend half their time telling these young people* that "You're X-Men, behave like it and do your job" and the other half saying "You're only kids, listen to your elders and betters without question" and expect to get away with it indefinitely.

Either these ARE X-Men, in which case treat them with the basic respect you'd show Beast, or Nightcrawler, or Cannonball and share information and consult them (Jean's a telepath, fast dispersal and accumulation of knowledge and information is a major part of her powerset), or they're NOT X-Men, in which case at least be honest with them and don't expect them to risk their lives on a daily basis just because you tell them to today.

* All of whom are at least the same age as Jean was when she was Marvel Girl, and who have more field experience, and been through several times more shit than she had been by that age.

[beyondthefringe]

I was wondering what had happened to Anole's spiky arm and if it was connected to that X-book I didn't read where some of them were sent to the future for a while.

[shadowseeking]

From what the X-editor says, people drew him without it so many times that it would be weird to have it just pop back up. And that maybe its "a story that's yet to be told".

The one where they went to the future had Vic coming back in a whole bigger, spikier, more muscular body too and they just forgot that happened entirely and started drawing him like this again.

[icon_uk]

Except this is just as bad, because not only have they dropped the arm, they've randomly given him a lizardlike tail, AND a prehensile tongue, neither of which are things he's ever had anywhere before.

[obsidianwolf]

Actually, he did have the tongue he used it in a very early appearance playing frisbee with Elixer and Hellion back when he was supposed to be the teen suicide in the new mutants book.

[icon_uk]

I sit corrected... :)

[shadowseeking]

The fact that in The Exterminated his tongue can apparently split into five tongues is new and just wrong though.

[shadowseeking]

Would be nice if they remembered Anole has a healing factor and should have been back on his feet two issues ago.

[deh_tommy]

I hope I'm not being too cynical...I don't know, say what you will about the last few years, but at least they were trying something new-ish and experimental. This just seems to be the same thing I've seen before.

Look, the X-Men/Mutantkind are hated and endangered/close to extinction. Again. The X-Mansion blew up. Again. We've got the Four Horsemen and an Age of Apocalypse. Again. The youth are in revolt against the adults. Again. Don't get me wrong, that's not really bad, just a bit... generic, i suppose?

(mind you, I'm probably feeling this way because I'm still a bit bitter over the whole 'Inhumans are replacing the X-Men' conspiracy and the disappointment I felt with Death of the Inhumans)

[obsidianwolf]

Well I have to disagree on how new the past ten or so years have been with one end of mutant threat after another that keeps new mutants from appearing until it is resolved only for another to take its place immediately after wards with only a small handful of new mutants created in the gap.

that said I imagine this attempt at returning to the x-mens roots is Marvel's holding pattern while they wait to see how the mutants are going to be introduced into the MCU. We've still got a couple of years before the first possible Mutant MCU films can show up so Marvel really doesn't know what kind of synergy is going to be required so attempting to cash in on nostalgia of when X-men where one of the biggest franchises before they damaged the brand either intentionally or not is probably in their eyes a safe move.

[tcampbell1000]

The Grant Morrison generation finally runs up against the fact that no one ages out of being an X-Man ever.

[shakalooloo]

Wow, Megan can open her mouth REALLY wide... Yikes!

[bruinsfan]

She was always stretching it open like Dracula's brides from Van Helsing whenever Land drew her. Or "drew" her, I suppose.

[icon_uk]

Wasn't every female he drew doing that half the time? The other half was "sultry" pouting, or somesuch.

And given Pixie is a minor, we will NOT speculate on what she was traced from.