Date: 2020-08-23 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cricharddavies
...well, yes, except no, because the Twilight vampires have nothing to do with bats.

Date: 2020-08-23 10:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lucean
Thrilled by the trailer, especially the energy Pattison gives off as Batman as his ability to project a physical presence was always my biggest concern with the casting. Yet not only does the new Bat-suit really work for me, that gang member beatdown is both glorious and scary as hell. And the way he looks at the other horrified gang members afterwards is just the chef's kiss.

Date: 2020-08-23 11:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] icon_uk
I like the overall style, I genuinely didn't recognise Pattison... that IS him with the bad haircut, right?

I like it seems to be paying attention to him being a detective as well as a martial artist.

Very dark, literally as well as figuratively, I do wish they could have afforded a couple of higher wattage light bulbs, and a little colour wouldn't have killed them, would it? (But that's been a quibble of mine about a lot of movies for a long time though)

Date: 2020-08-23 12:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] christianconnor
The two things that stuck out most for me was that lack of decent lighting, and how The Batman felt more like the Netflix Daredevil - not bad, exactly, but maybe not what I was looking for.

Hopefully, there will be some real detective work done. I remember Nolan claiming TDK would show off that aspect to Batman, which I think resulted in a single ballistics scene.

Date: 2020-08-23 01:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] janegray
Everybody seems to love this trailer, and I don't understand why. To me, it was the most boring trailer I've ever seen, and it has effectively reduced my interest in the movie.

Date: 2020-08-23 01:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Same.

Date: 2020-08-23 01:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] magicrubbish
Agree.

Date: 2020-08-23 01:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lucean
...I guess different tastes and all that is the reaosn why others might like the trailer even if you didn't?

Date: 2020-08-23 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] locuatico
Me personally, it's more what I don't SEE that gets me somewhat optmistic for it.
There is no crime alley, there is no "i will choose a bat" and so on.

It's not a veteran Batman either, it's not going full on "Dark Knight Returns" of having him already by decades in costume.

It's Batman as I want a Batman movie to be, without the (at this point) unnecessary 40 minutes prologue of how his parents are deaaaaaaad and choosing to take vengeance in their name. but without skipping all the other stuff.

I also think my view is somewhat colored because of the Director's comments on the movie and his general vision, which I liked so far.

Date: 2020-08-23 02:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cyberghostface
Not doing much for me. Ooh we’re dark and gritty and Riddler is the serial killer from ‘se7en’. I enjoyed Nolan a lot but I was hoping for something a bit different. I’m not suggesting they copy Adam West but something in tone to BTAS would have been preferable. I’m looking forward to Andy Serkis though.

Also ‘Gotham’ was a blast after they learned to embrace the comics.
Edited Date: 2020-08-23 02:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-08-23 03:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
I'm not as over the moon about this as some, but I do like the look of this. It's got some interesting energy and as far as diving into the "take me seriously" style it's at least drawing on some good touchstones in Se7en and Zodiac. I also quite like that Tim-Burton-looking band of thugs, I'm curious if that's just random spooky makeup or a Joker thing (heck, it could even be a link to the Joker movie, depending on when this is set).

It looks like this version of the Riddler is doing a serial killer vigilante thing, which, while old hat in the comics, isn't something I can recall seeing on film before, so that could be interesting. I'm a big fan of death traps and heists Riddler, but it's been a while since that version of the character has seen the light of day even in the comics, so I think this could be a unique take.

Not nearly so excited about the Gotham PD spinoff, especially so soon after the ending of the Gotham series. Between the two I wonder if we could be witnessing the emergence of Gotham cop stories as a permanent part of the crossmedia Bat-mythos, much like how the Spider-Verse stuff became a huge part of Spider-Man in recent years. If that is the case, I can't say I'm happy about it. I expect given the context of Gotham and rampant corruption this won't be entirely typical copaganda, but in 2020 I could still stand to see less cop-centric stories. I will say though, that setting it in Year One seems like a good idea (though obviously one with a limited shelf life) to let them actually do Batman stuff but without having him be a normal, everyday presence.

Date: 2020-08-23 04:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silverhammerman
Cop + Propaganda. It's a term for media which promotes celebratory portrayals of the police with the intent of swaying public opinion to the benefit of the police. So like stories that show a world riddled with crime and the heroic cops who hold it all together rather than acting as agents of state violence (as you might guess, it's very popular among leftists). Law and Order, CSI, even something as generally innocuous as Brooklyn 99, could all be called copaganda because they show well-intentioned hero cops fighting crime rather than like, fining poor people and teargassing protesters.

It's a bit broad, but it's gained a lot of traction in the past couple of years for obvious reasons. Like I said, Gotham PD probably won't end up being typical copaganda if it's going to deal as heavily with corruption as they say, but I'm still not hot on cop stories right now.

Date: 2020-08-23 06:05 pm (UTC)
thanekos: Seiga Kaku from Touhou 13, shadowed. (Default)
From: [personal profile] thanekos
" What does a liar do when he's dead? "

Already this is one step above the shooting script for Batman Forever, with its multiple " TODO: add riddle for the Riddler here ".
Edited Date: 2020-08-23 07:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-08-25 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] capnduckman
Why odes every batman movie have to be darker?

And not just in tone, I LITERALLY am having trouble seeing what is happening because of the lack of lights.

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