Miles Morales: Spider-Man #19

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[dan_ingram]

Maybe its just me, but I really think it's dumb how they keep calling back to Miles' time in the Ultimates verse.

Especially when his 'counter parts' big secret was being besties with Wilson Fisk.

Grow the mythos already, damn it

[cyberghostface]

I think bringing back 616 Miles is a good idea but they've just waited by making him a fairly standard villain.

Even worse is Ultimate Goblin who's been reduced to being a generic lackey thug for Miles. He's more or less 616 Norman personality-wise and he might as well be the Rhino here.

[thanekos]

An alternate evil Norman played straight probably would've been met with " .. didn't we just have this with Superior Spider-Man? "

[cyberghostface]

Then they shouldn’t be using a pre-established character.

[lordultimus]

Is it just me, or does adult Miles look really Caucasian in this?

[zachbeacon]

It's not just you.

[dr_archeville]

It's not just you.

[beyondthefringe]

Evil Miles even calls it out in the scans above when he says Young Miles is "Younger. Moreno." Aka, he recognizes that Young Miles is brown, or darker-skinned.

I don't think it's ever been fully explained just what sort of background Evil Miles has, but clearly, he turned out differently than Young Miles... maybe he took after his Puerto Rican mother more than his Black father, assuming they even had the same parents in both universes.

No, I don't even know why Evil Miles was created to be a villain, and one so divergent from the original version either. Yeah, there's a lot of differences between the 616 and 1610, but this still feels random.

[cyberghostface]

No, I don't even know why Evil Miles was created to be a villain, and one so divergent from the original version either. Yeah, there's a lot of differences between the 616 and 1610, but this still feels random.

It's in part because Bendis hinted at 616 Miles at the end of the first Spider-Men miniseries. His initial plan was to introduce him as an older version of teen Miles for Peter to become friends with later on.

Then when the merging of universes came along the 616 Miles was still a dangling plot thread and it would have been redundant to introduce an older version of a character who is already interacting with Peter. So Bendis changed his plans and created a very different version of Miles.

[shadowpsykie]

He's light skinned, but still brown, but like he says to our Miles, he's more Moreno (which means, darker.)

[silverhammerman]

No, he's supposed to be that way. I don't know if Bendis ever felt the need to delve into the specifics of any differences between 616 and Ultimate Miles Morales' heritage, but I always thought it was just Bendis being cute about how the Ultimate Universe famously made Nick Fury black, along with changing the backgrounds of a few other characters, like Wasp. Ultimate Nick Fury doesn't look like 616 Nick Fury (or at least, the original Nick Fury) so of course Ultimate Miles doesn't look like 616 Miles!

[zachbeacon]

Someone should really stop this evil plan.

...right after he sends Uncle Aaron back.

[silverhammerman]

What's your issue with having Aaron Davis? I thought that getting rid of Prowler in the original series Ultimate series was one of the bigger missteps of Bendis' run, wasting a potentially very interesting relationship and a villain who felt entirely unique to Miles (which was a real problem as that series went along). I do think he's more interesting as a villain than sliding into antihero territory as he seems to be doing, but I like having him around.

[zachbeacon]

Two things.

1) I think he's an interesting twist on the Uncle Ben idea but I don't want to see Ben Parker running around either.

2) I'm a big Hobie Brown fan.

[scorntx]

Maybe it's just because of reading a few pages out of the greater whole, but Anti-Miles' plan seems to be missing a few steps.
Like, if he just wants Miles and his family back in the Ultimate Universe, why not, oooh, tell them the situation then shove 'em through the portal thing.
Why go through the unnecessarily villainous plan of abducting Miles's family?

And given the vast differences between Earth-616's history and Earth-1610, it's a little weird that both Miles both have the exact same memories.

... and another storyline where Miles is bailed out of trouble by his uncle Aaron.
Hmm.

[akodo_rokku]

I *think* the point is that 616-Miles' memories were grafted onto 1610-Miles when he was folded into 616? But if I remember correctly at least one story has had 1610-Miles already knowing he was from another universe in the past, so somebody's not paying attention.

[lbd_nytetrayn]

Wow, good thing they went to all that trouble of integrating him and his history into 616 to... basically undo it, I guess?

Like, I'm not expecting they'll go back, but the memories and stuff...

[scorntx]

Eh, it'll probably just be like with Power Girl.
(But with less cosmic angst.)