Thor # 8: Thor And Tony Talk

[superfangirl1]

Tony ask Thor why he is being irresponsible with his hammer. And then Thor say he doesn’t got to explain his actions to anyone, especially Tony.

Tony gets insulted and says fine, lets do this the hard way. Which he proceeds to hit Thor with his hammer.

Comments

[thanekos]

" Thank you for not making me test that. Again. "
" You're welcome for, you know.. not having to go through another fan-pandering rebuttal to someone else's story. "
" Yes. Those can be annoying. "

[icon_uk]

I don't think I ever viewed Thors beatdown of Tony for his casual creation of an abomination in the shape of a murderous cyborg clone of Thor to be "fan-pandering" so much as it was "very satisfying karmic payback", but I might be a tad biased there.

[thanekos]

It's a good sequence, and a logical consequence of Civil War, but it is also very obviously written to pander to the reader's desire for satisfying payback.

I'm not sure that anyone can look at " .. learn again the difference between a god of thunder and a man in a metal suit.. " today without rolling their eyes at least a bit.

[scorntx]

*from somewhere near the back of the room*
"Um, well, actually..."

[agent8]

So can just anyone pick up Mjolnir and wield the power of Thor now? when and how did that happen?

[superfangirl1]

Thor to prepare for a possible big event as the Black Winter showed him a vision of a dark future. Which has Thanos holding Mjolnir with the Infinity Stones attached to the hammer in one hand and a demonic black gauntlet in the the other arm. Behind Thanos are zombie versions of all of the heroes of the Marvel Universe.

He took off the Mjolnir to and put it in Broxton, Oklahoma to test a theory.

[zachbeacon]

Sorry, could you clarify that? He removed the worthiness enchantment because he had a vision of someone unworthy using it?

[superfangirl1]

https://www.cbr.com/thor-thanos-mjolnir-infinity-upgrades/

[zachbeacon]

Ok, I read it. That part I understood. I didn't see any mention of what happened with the enchantment though.

[beyondthefringe]

Pardon me while I roll my eyes at yet another mighty Marvel mash-up. I mean, with all the Infinity Stones, you're basically all-powerful to begin with. So slapping them onto Mjolnir is basically just gilding the lily. It doesn't make sense. It's like, if Thanos had the Infinity Gauntlet, would he be any more all-powerful if he strapped an old-school cosmic cube to his groin, and rode Silver Surfer's surfboard into battle?

And really, I just don't ever care to see either Thanos or the Infinity Stones again. That story well ran dry years ago. How many times can he achieve PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER and then be defeated/killed before it becomes downright redundant?

[zachbeacon]

Clearly you don't appreciate how much more powerful the cosmic cube becomes when you duct tape a knife to it.

[janegray]

I wish we could like replies here because yours was A+

[icon_uk]

I'd READ that comic.

[repto]

Ah, I see you've played knifey-cubey before.

[scorntx]

As long as Jim Starlin lives.
Because that's really the only Thanos story Jim Starlin ever tells.

"Thanos has become all-powerful and no-one can stop him because he's too cool and awesome and - oh wait he dropped the Cube, but he didn't because he totally planned for that. (Did we mention Thanos is cool and awesome? We did? Good, good.) And now the reset button, because Thanos's actions having consequences would mean him having to suffer for them, and that cannot happen."

Throw in some Adam Warlock and some Ross/Rachel shenanigans with Thanos and Death and you're gold.


Really, the smartest thing that could've been done with the gems would've been for Starlin to utterly destroy them completely right after Gauntlet so no-one could ever use them again.
(I.E., exactly what Movie Thanos went and did.)
It wouldn't have stopped someone eventually bringing them back, but it's nice to think it might've slowed them down for a few seconds.


-yet another mighty Marvel mash-up-
It does seem like every future Marvel visits is now occupied by mashed-up versions of characters.
Certainly adds a new meaning to the phrase "grim darkness".
Wasn't it Cates who gave us Cosmic Ghost Rider Punisher to begin with? Mashed-up future versions of characters seems to be A Thing with him.

(... though, ah, admittedly, that glimpse of a mashed-up Kamala Khan and Major Victory seems like a mildly interesting idea.)

[deh_tommy]

Ex-Herald of Galactus Ghost Rider Frank Castle vs. Mjolnir-wielding Silver Surfer, mind you.

[icon_uk]

Yeah, putting the Infinity Stones on Mjolnir would basically be so pointless you might as well just put them in a plastic bag, because the power gap between the Stones and pretty much ANYHTING else is so vast as to make such distinctions meaningless

[bruinsfan]

If the worthiness enchantment is broken, another wielder wouldn't get Thor's power, would they? They'd still have a nearly indestructible hammer that returns when thrown and can open dimensional portals, which is nothing to sneeze at, but they shouldn't have Thor's physical might or control over the weather.

[super_fly]

Seems like there's an obvious solution here, keep the original inscription but add, "Unless it's Thanos."

[shakalooloo]

So, between this and Daredevil, is Tony's role now just to show up, help out briefly and then go away?

[zachbeacon]

I'm not sure I'd call it "helping"

[zachbeacon]

I gotta say, these are two Avengers I would not expect to be locked in a prank war.

[lbd_nytetrayn]

Nor I, but I'm here for it.

[deh_tommy]

There’s some great dialogue/banter in the new Avengers game. Apparently Tony’s no longer allowed wheelie chairs in his room because he cheated in a chair race against Thor one time.

[deepspaceartist]

It's worth noting that Thor isn't allowed wheelie chairs either, because he wasn't subtle about cheating back.

[starwolf_oakley]

Doctor Doom succeeded in stealing Thor's hammer in THOR 408 and 409.

[shakalooloo]

And he used it to power a time machine, of all things.

[donnblake]

Weird, because A) I thought that Mjolnir had specifically had it's time travel powers removed in one of those big Immortus/Kang drama stoylines, and B) Doom already has a time machine.

[icon_uk]

Yeah, but you can't get the batteries for them any more, so Mjolnir is probably a pretty handy alternative.

[scorntx]

But Doom runs a whole country. Surely he could just yell at or threaten someone until the batteries get made.
That's, like, the whole point of being absolute dictator.

[deh_tommy]

“Sir, the technology doesn't actually exist. So it...“

“Wait, wait, the technology? Here is the technology! I've asked you to simply make it smaller.

[gnarll]

I really did enjoy this. The series started off shaky and even poor for me, but this felt really good. I am onboard.

[armycat23]

Tony is being quite the crybaby about the phone number. Just change your phone number, dude...its super easy. Ironically, he later says that Thor is tightly wound up and needs to relax, even though Thor likely has much more serious matters to attend to than Tony dealing with his phone number being given out to a few people.

Kinda wonky inconsistent writing.

[zachbeacon]

"New armor, who dis?"

[magnetoisright]

I love how Thor literally cannot bring himself to say that Tony has always been a good friend and ally

After all Loki is the one whose meant to be the God of Lies

[deepspaceartist]

I mean, Thor can't say literally anyone he knows is ALWAYS a good friend and ally, shit like brainwashing, moral inversions, rewritten timelines and other such things keep happening. Steve was a nazi a few years back, Carol is one future predictor away from going full Minority Report, Hulk is currently some sort of horror comic monster, Hank Pym is part of Ultron, the list goes on. If Thor couldn't forgive his friends the occasional bit of turning evil or bad writing, he wouldn't have any friends.

[scorntx]

... he still have She-Hulk.

[magnetoisright]

I see what you mean but I mean Hydra! Cap wasn't the real Steve just an inferior Nazi piece of crap created by that annoying little Cosmic Cube brat that Spencer created (Is it wrong to want to murder a child if that child is REALLY annoying? Asking for a friend)

Pym didn't choose to become Pymtron and Carol was basically going through Cosmic Post Traumatic Stress Disorder during the whole Civil War II thing

So I get what you mean about how most of Thor's friends have acted like assholes but I would argue that with most of them it either wasn't them, wasn't their choice or they at least had the justification that they were Going Through Some Stuff when it happened

Tony's actions in Civil War on the other hand were literally just him going "I think I would like to commit war crimes on purpose today" and then lobotomising himself so he could avoid taking any responsibility for it