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'I’m not as much interested in the whole “There are two sides! which one are you on?!” thing. I’m more interested in… let’s say you have a certain political stance on something, something you believe to your core, and there’s a friend with you, someone you deeply love and care for, and you want the best for them, and you see that they have a different perspective, not because they’re bad or they’re unintelligent or need to be convinced, but because they’re actually a different human with a different life that means they’ll be differently impacted by whatever happens? What do you do then? This is less a story of the teens going to war with each other as much as trying to figure out how to care for each other across real difference in an environment of terror.' - Eve Ewing





Date: 2021-01-01 05:23 am (UTC)
lucean: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lucean
I realize it was probably not intentional, but I absolutely adore the visual on that final page with all the young heroes seeming to try to find a pose that looks cool while Scott's basically standing there being 'Yo, I'm Cyclops of the X-Men. I don't need to try to look cool here.'

Date: 2021-01-01 06:21 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rainspirit
Scott with his hand on the visor is always iconic. It's effortless.

Date: 2021-01-01 08:47 am (UTC)
coldfury: (Default)
From: [personal profile] coldfury
Okay, bringing back Cyclops as an adult who now remembers his one time teenage friends is an inspired move that I absolutely did not see coming. Great twist.

Date: 2021-01-03 12:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nyadnar17
Right?!

I can't get over how this move is such an obvious, classic Ewing move....but it took me so off guard it wasn't even on my bingo card.

Date: 2021-01-04 07:55 pm (UTC)
shadowpsykie: (Happy Willow)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
i squeed....

Date: 2021-01-05 01:03 pm (UTC)
lieut_kettch: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lieut_kettch
That issue of Champions where Scott reveals that he remembers everything, with the panel of Kamala tearing up with lip wibble gave me such feels.

Date: 2021-02-10 04:00 am (UTC)
shadowpsykie: Information (Default)
From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN

Date: 2021-01-01 12:00 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
Wait, when did Sam Alexander get his Nova helmet back?

In any case, YAY CYCLOPS
From: [personal profile] chortles81
Issues #7-8 out of 10.

Date: 2021-01-01 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gnarll
Did not see that coming.

Date: 2021-01-01 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] themajesticmoose
This was such an utterly fantastic moment

After that awful Uncanny X-men run that tried to turn him back into a spineless and pathetic coward that wanted to play nice with bigots and oppressors I'm so glad that the current comics have given us back the awesome "Fuck the police" Cyclops that I came to absolutely love when Gillen and Bendis were writing him

This is also an example of why the X-men will always be better than the Avengers for me. And a great example of one of the things I love about the current X-men status quo as well. No more kid gloves. Just straight up tells these jackbooted pieces of garbage "Here's the line in the sand. Cross it and our people can and will annihilate you"

Date: 2021-01-01 04:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
"why the X-men will always be better than the Avengers for me."

For all my problems with modern X-Men, they're generally much better at looking after their own than the Avengers.

Sure there are exceptions like Storm and the Morlocks but I could be here forever listing times the Avengers have failed their own.

Date: 2021-01-02 12:04 am (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Charles let down so many people, there's literally no room for X-Men letting each other down.

Date: 2021-01-02 12:37 am (UTC)
zachbeacon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Okay, point. At this point I just compartmentalize Chuck being terrible as being separate from "the X-Men".

CYCLOPS takes care of his own... unless you're married to him.

Funny thing is, if you see Champions (2019) #5

Date: 2021-01-03 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] chortles81
Alex/Havok might disagree with Scott/Cyclops' definition of "his own"...
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From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I haven't read that particular issue but generally Scott is there for Alex in spite of his stupid decisions.

In that issue, a War of the Realms tie-in

Date: 2021-01-04 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] chortles81
As soon as he heard that Ms. Marvel was under attack he immediately ditched Alex and Jamie Madrox -- guarding a stadium serving as a hideout from frost giants for Marvel civilians -- to reinforce her portion of the Champions, complete with the war cry "... to me, my Champions!" Upon his return...

Alex: "You have fun on your trip with the teeny-boppers?"
Scott: "They needed help."
Alex: "Yeah, and what about us? You're just lucky things were quiet here while you were gone. What the hell were you thinking?! We're supposed to be a team."
Scott: "I know. That's why I went... because my team needed me."

Re: In that issue, a War of the Realms tie-in

Date: 2021-01-04 05:29 am (UTC)
zachbeacon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I'd make a joke about Scott being that weird guy who still hangs around the high school but technically that describes most of the X-Men.
From: [personal profile] gnarll
And Madelyne. And Stryfe frequently does.

Date: 2021-01-04 08:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shadowpsykie
more than that. The X-Men, will help you regardless if you are an avenger, defender, champion, or fellow x-man.

these other teams? when have they come to help the x-men? legitimately taking their side agains others, not "Well, why don't both of you guys calm down and let's try talking this out."

visually speaking... essentially, something like this scene itself.

other teams have stood BETWEEN both parties and told them both to calm down. The X-Men are the only ones i have seen to what scott is doing, standing between, but WITH one side.

Date: 2021-01-02 10:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
I like the moment, but I can’t say I agree with your other assessments (and let’s just leave that at that).

Date: 2021-01-01 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] nightauditguy
What is Miles' web attached to?

Date: 2021-01-01 02:50 pm (UTC)
spider_man6: (Default)
From: [personal profile] spider_man6
I'm guessing another tree we can't see?

Date: 2021-01-01 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Passing cloud.

It's always a passing cloud.

Date: 2021-01-01 04:42 pm (UTC)
zachbeacon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
News copter.

Date: 2021-01-02 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] john_wyatt
Wonder Woman's lasso, which is attached to a lightning bolt

Date: 2021-01-01 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arilou_skiff
But the Champions is Warrens team!

Date: 2021-01-02 11:03 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
Ms. Marvel formed a new team of Champions post-Civil War II: The Second Part because of how fed up she and her friends were with the older heroes and their morally dubious constant infighting. O5 Cyclops was one of their founding members before young Cable kicked the All-New X-Men back in time.
Edited Date: 2021-01-02 11:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-01-01 04:13 pm (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Yeah, it'd be a lot easier to buy that quote if the side supporting it wasn't constantly portrayed as being comically evil.

Date: 2021-01-01 05:35 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Yeah I mean we started this whole event with armed soldiers breaking into peoples homes to kidnap super powered children, and we've seen them in their creepy brainwashing detention centers afterwards,

I mean at this point the question is which supervillain is actually behind this. I would say Nanny, but she's kind of busy in the Hellions book. So.... I don't know the Boogeyman? Granny Goodness and this is an unexpected DC crossover?

Also that scene with making Bombshell publicly decry the Champions, very obviously doing so under duress, makes me sick to my stomach. Go fuck yourself Speedball.
Edited Date: 2021-01-01 05:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-01-01 06:02 pm (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
My only hope is that the New Warriors are under mind control.

Date: 2021-01-01 06:23 pm (UTC)
laughing_tree: (Default)
From: [personal profile] laughing_tree
No, it’s clear later in the issue Bombshell really believes what she’s saying. The tears are out of remorse.

Date: 2021-01-01 06:36 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Either way it still makes me real uncomfortable.
From: [personal profile] chortles81
Besides the previous mockery of "Safespace", "Snowflake", and "internet gas", that is: if they were being Outlawed-mentored by the New Warriors, these debuting characters would by design be up against the Champions...

P.S. I can safely say it's not the Boogeyman.

Date: 2021-01-02 12:58 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
Pretending one side isn't cartoonishly evil represents a very common aspect of American politics these days.

Date: 2021-01-02 03:09 am (UTC)
lordultimus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lordultimus
Well, this comic assumes that the other side is actually just as left-wing as you, just differently, so... huh?

Date: 2021-01-02 05:05 am (UTC)
mastermahan: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mastermahan
If that quote was from someone inside the comic, I'd assume it was meant as a satire of American centrism. One side supports capturing teenagers and locking them in brainwashing camp. The other side thinks that's bad. Anyone who says "both sides have a point" is giving the teen brainwashers credit they don't deserve.

Date: 2021-01-05 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
Not just locking them up in brainwashing camp. Deploying massive, heavily armed military units after them.

Date: 2021-01-01 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
It's surprising that Speedball would go along with this after the sheer metric crap-ton of awfulness he went through as a result of Civil War, which you'd think would make him run away from this exact kind of thing screaming.
Because... you know, it's almost the same as they did to him.

Well, I say 'surprising'...
This is an event where nuance and subtlety were told not to bother coming in on Monday.

Date: 2021-01-01 06:38 pm (UTC)
crinos: (Default)
From: [personal profile] crinos
Pretty sure Civil War IS the reason he's going along with all of this.

I mean even though we've all agreed Civil War was a horrible event, the whole "The New Warriors were responsible for Stanford because something something irresponsible" kind of stuck.

And even if it didn't, it would make sense Speedball would still blame himself for that happening.

Date: 2021-01-02 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] scorntx
Yeah, but... making someone the scapegoat...
I know, I know, characterization in comics these days is usually a roll of the dice and Speedball is often written as a (well-meaning) doofus, but it just seems that putting a teenager through the sort of situation that should be reminding him of what he went through.
Because that's exactly how it started for him.

Date: 2021-01-02 11:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
I liked Civil War... well, I liked the core book. Wasn’t too gone on the event as a whole.

Date: 2021-01-02 01:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lbd_nytetrayn
Okay, I popped for that last part there.

Date: 2021-01-04 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] matrix_dragon
Where were all these military units when America was taken over by Nazis?

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