Date: 2021-04-14 06:36 pm (UTC)
leahandillyana: (Default)
From: [personal profile] leahandillyana
I don’t like this retcon.

Date: 2021-04-14 08:01 pm (UTC)
fra080389: (Default)
From: [personal profile] fra080389
I'm confused.
I mean, it was weird for American Chavez to be Miss America if she was an alien from Utopia and not an america citizen. And yeah, there was actually a BIG plot hole there, about what she did when she was stranded in the demiurgo's home earth. But it's just so strange to see her in this way (admitting she didn't have much of a personality in Young Avengers).

Date: 2021-04-14 10:32 pm (UTC)
zachbeacon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
YA (and Ultimates) was the one time I liked her.

Granted her introduction in Vengeance and her original ongoing were both pretty awful so the bar is low.

Date: 2021-04-19 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] tinygaylaura
Young Avengers got me interested in her when it revealed she was a lesbian and I've liked her appearances since then

Date: 2021-04-14 08:40 pm (UTC)
deh_tommy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] deh_tommy
I’m a bit confused. What exactly is going on?

Date: 2021-04-14 10:33 pm (UTC)
shakalooloo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] shakalooloo
This CBR article sort-of kinda makes some semblance of sense of the multiple nested near-retcons and hidden pasts that have been implanted here:

https://www.cbr.com/america-chavez-young-avenger-utopian-parallel-enemy/

Date: 2021-04-14 11:07 pm (UTC)
onsokumaru: (macron)
From: [personal profile] onsokumaru
I'm guessing some Miracle Man retcon

Date: 2021-04-15 06:42 am (UTC)
cainofdreaming: b/w (Default)
From: [personal profile] cainofdreaming
I'm guessing it's time for another grimdark retcon.

Date: 2021-04-14 10:28 pm (UTC)
zachbeacon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
Shouldn't she have two moms or is this like her adoptive 616 family?

Date: 2021-04-15 03:10 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
It's the family that adopted her when she arrived in the 616, yes.

Date: 2021-04-14 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thezmage
So I've only read the America Chavez appearances that have been posted here, but I've never really understood what her deal was supposed to be. The impression I got was that she was supposed to be capable of traversing dimensions and was intentionally created to be flawless, this is the first thing I've seen that contradicts that impression

Date: 2021-04-15 12:19 am (UTC)
zachbeacon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zachbeacon
I think some of that might be a front. She came from a paradise but it would have stopped being a paradise after her parents died. That's when she threw herself into the universe-hopping superhero thing.

Date: 2021-04-19 03:22 pm (UTC)
filthysize: (Default)
From: [personal profile] filthysize
I hope the villain is America Vasquez.

Date: 2021-04-22 10:36 am (UTC)
thehood: (Default)
From: [personal profile] thehood
Don't know if they can use that name, but i can see the villain being something along those lines.

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